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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Dear Chuck,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I
believe your email further below said:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>“</span><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>We
need to very quickly "</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black;
background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow'>identify some <b><u>user
representatives</u></b>, especially individual users</span><span lang=EN-US
style='color:black'>, who would be willing to work with the ALAC and At-Large
community to develop a recommendation regarding the Board’s request</span><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>". 
Does the NCUC have any recommendations?  Should we seek some volunteers
from the GA list?  <span style='background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow'>Can
anyone recommend an individual user?</span>”</span><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Would there be a need to justify that persons involved need to represent
an individual users perspective rather than overly conflicting with other
interests?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Would this be important to the perception of transparency and
complying with the letter and spirit of what we are trying to do or else impact
the credibility of the process?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <b>On Behalf
Of </b>Mary Wong<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 06 February 2009 04:03<br>
<b>To:</b> council@gnso.icann.org; icann@rodenbaugh.com; Chuck Gomes<br>
<b>Cc:</b> ALAC Working List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [council] Motion on Individual Users in the GNSO.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Thanks for the
opportunity to clarify the issue, Mike. While Bill and I are NCUC
representatives on the Council, we certainly (as Chuck noted) do not claim to
represent individual users, except insofar as they are members of NCUC. We are
both of us, however, interested in participating - through the GNSO mechanism -
in what we believe to be a very important process for ICANN. Further, the
motion called for the GNSO to "identify user representatives ... willing
to work with the ALAC and At-Large community to develop a recommendation"
to the Board. As such, I was simply using the language of the motion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I am conscious also
of the Board's Resolution 2008-12-11-02, seeking a "recommendation on how
to incorporate the legitimate interests of individual Internet users in the
GNSO in constructive yet non-duplicative ways ..." As the NCUC is
committed to facilitating greater and broader individual inclusion, and as
it believes that this effort ought to be inclusive and effective, it seems
to me that it also makes sense for NCUC Councillors (and perhaps even
members) who have expressed an interest to be part of the effort to
develop the requisite recommendation. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I assure everyone
that this does not mean Bill and I will only express NCUC's views, or
participate only as NCUC representatives. I do, however, believe that our
participation as GNSO individual nominees will have the added benefit of
facilitating smooth and transparent communications and
cooperation between those groups, individuals and constituencies that
have reason to be interested in the outcome of this process.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I hope this
clarifies matters, at least in respect of my own views. BTW, since I'm not a member
of the ALAC Working List, my emails get bounced from that list. If someone can
forward this response to them, I'd be very grateful.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>With apologies for
the length of this email,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Mary<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:purple'>Mary W S Wong</span></strong><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Professor of Law<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Franklin Pierce Law
Center<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Two White Street<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Concord, NH 03301<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>USA<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Email: <a
href="mailto:mwong@piercelaw.edu">mwong@piercelaw.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Phone:
1-603-513-5143<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Webpage: <a
href="http://www.piercelaw.edu/marywong/index.php">http://www.piercelaw.edu/marywong/index.php</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Selected writings available
on the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) at: <a
href="http://ssrn.com/author=437584">http://ssrn.com/author=437584</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br>
>>> "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com> 2/5/2009 4:20
PM >>><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Mike,</span><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>I didn't
assume they were claiming to be representative of individual users but rather
that they are individual users.  All our motion asked for was invidual
users.</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Chuck</span><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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text-align:center'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:0cm'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> owner-council@gnso.icann.org
[mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike Rodenbaugh<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 05, 2009 12:07 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> council@gnso.icann.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'ALAC Working List'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [council] Motion on Individual Users in the GNSO.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Hi Mary,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Thanks to you and Bill for volunteering, but could you please
describe why you believe you two are ‘representative’ of individual users?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>-Mike R.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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text-align:center'><span lang=EN-US>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <b>On Behalf
Of </b>Mary Wong<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 04, 2009 8:53 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> council@gnso.icann.org; Alan Greenberg; Chuck Gomes<br>
<b>Cc:</b> ALAC Working List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [council] Motion on Individual Users in the GNSO.</span><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Everyone,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>The NCUC would like
to express its thanks to those members who have worked on the motion and the
various activities that accompany it. We believe the question of individual
user engagement is, like public participation, an important and vital part of
the ICANN model and process. The NCUC is also fully committed to contributing to
processes and models, going forward, that will facilitate individual user
participation (non-commercial and otherwise) in the GNSO and other aspects of
ICANN work.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>As such, the NCUC
would like to nominate two of its Councillors, viz. myself (Mary) and Bill
Drake, to serve as user representatives to assist in creating a useful and
representative recommendation to the Board in this respect.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Mary (for the NCUC)<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><strong><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:purple'>Mary W S Wong</span></strong><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Professor of Law<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Franklin Pierce Law
Center<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Two White Street<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Concord, NH 03301<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>USA<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Email: <a
href="mailto:mwong@piercelaw.edu">mwong@piercelaw.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Phone:
1-603-513-5143<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Webpage: <a
href="http://www.piercelaw.edu/marywong/index.php">http://www.piercelaw.edu/marywong/index.php</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Selected
writings available on the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) at: <a
href="http://ssrn.com/author=437584">http://ssrn.com/author=437584</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br>
<br>
>>> "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com> 2/3/2009 8:19
PM >>><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Avri and
all,</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>We need to
very quickly "</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>identify some
user representatives, especially individual users, who would be willing to work
with the ALAC and At-Large community to develop a recommendation regarding the
Board’s request</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>".  Does the NCUC have any
recommendations?  Should we seek some volunteers from the GA list? 
Can anyone recommend an individual user?</span><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Chuck</span><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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text-align:center'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:0cm'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Alan Greenberg<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 02, 2009 4:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> council@gnso.icann.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> ALAC Working List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [council] Motion on Individual Users in the GNSO.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:0cm'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>At 29/01/2009 05:42 PM, Glen de Saint Géry wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Motion 4<br>
Motion re: Individual Users in the GNSO<br>
=======================================<br>
Motion proposed by Chuck Gomes seconded by Bill Drake with friendly amendments
by Alan Greenberg <br>
Whereas: <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<ul type=disc>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l4 level1 lfo1'><span lang=EN-US
     style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>On 11 December
     2008, the ICANN Board approved Resolution 2008-12-11-02 seeking a
     recommendation on how to incorporate the legitimate interests of
     individual Internet users in the GNSO in constructive yet non-duplicative
     ways and requesting that the recommendation should be submitted no later
     than 24 January 2009 for consideration by the Board. <o:p></o:p></span></li>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l4 level1 lfo1'><span lang=EN-US
     style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>In an email
     message to the GNSO Council list dated 20 January 2009, the ICANN Vice
     President, Policy Development clarified that the11 December Resolution is
     an effort to help the Board identify a strategic solution that balances
     ALAC/At-Large and GNSO opportunities for all user and registrant
     stakeholders. <o:p></o:p></span></li>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l4 level1 lfo1'><span lang=EN-US
     style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>The Working
     Group on GNSO Council Restructuring Report sent to the ICANN Board of
     Directors on 25 July 2008 recommended that the Non-Contracted Party/User
     House would be open to membership of all interested parties that use or
     provide services for the Internet, with the obvious exclusion of the
     contracted parties and should explicitly not be restricted to domain
     registrants as recommended by the BGC and that such recommendation was
     made in response to the suggestion of the ALAC Liaison to the Council. <o:p></o:p></span></li>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l4 level1 lfo1'><span lang=EN-US
     style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>The GNSO
     Council Chair previously contacted the ALAC Chair and the GNSO ALAC
     Liaison to discuss this topic. <o:p></o:p></span></li>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l4 level1 lfo1'><span lang=EN-US
     style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>The potential members
     of the two GNSO Council Non-Contracted Party Stakeholder Groups have been
     tasked with submitting proposed Stakeholder Group Charters to the ICANN
     Board prior to the Board meeting on 6 March 2009. <o:p></o:p></span></li>
</ul>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Resolve: <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<ul type=disc>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l5 level1 lfo2'><span lang=EN-US
     style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>The Council
     requests the GNSO Council ALAC Liaison in consultation with the ALAC Chair
     to: <o:p></o:p></span></li>
</ul>

<ul type=disc>
 <ul type=circle>
  <li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l7 level2 lfo3'><span lang=EN-US
      style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Determine
      whether the ALAC and At-Large community have any concerns with regard to
      the recommendation that membership in the Non-Contracted Party/User House
      would be open to individual Internet users in addition to domain name
      registrants and, if so, to communicate those concerns to the GNSO Council
      as soon as practical <o:p></o:p></span></li>
 </ul>
</ul>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>The ALAC and
At-Large continue to support having users (which includes registrants) involved
in the Non-contracted Party/User House of the GNSO. Our initial reply to the
Board is appended below. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<ul type=disc>
 <ul type=circle>
  <li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l2 level2 lfo4'><span lang=EN-US
      style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Determine
      whether the ALAC and At-Large community would like the GNSO to identify
      some user representatives, especially individual users, who would be
      willing to work with the ALAC and At-Large community to develop a
      recommendation regarding the Board’s request that could be forwarded to
      the appropriate groups for their consideration in developing a
      stakeholder group charter and to the Board for action on GNSO improvement
      recommendations. <o:p></o:p></span></li>
 </ul>
</ul>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:0cm'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>We are most certainly interested. As noted in our
initial response to the Board, we are committed to responding to the Board by
February 20. Our intent is to try to reach some common ground with the
GNSO-names individuals. To the extent that we do or do not meet this goal, our
response to the Board will note it.<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>If in either case
the ALAC or At-large community do not accept this proposal the GNSO council may
reconsider the issue. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<ul type=disc>
 <ul type=circle>
  <li class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo5'><span
      lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Provide
      weekly progress reports to the Council list regarding the above. <o:p></o:p></span></li>
 </ul>
</ul>

<ul type=disc>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l3 level1 lfo6'><span lang=EN-US
     style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>The Council
     directs the Council Chair to: <o:p></o:p></span></li>
</ul>

<ul type=disc>
 <ul type=circle>
  <li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level2 lfo7'><span lang=EN-US
      style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Apologize to
      the Board that it failed to meet the Board established deadline of 24
      January <o:p></o:p></span></li>
  <li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level2 lfo7'><span lang=EN-US
      style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Inform the
      Board that the GNSO: <o:p></o:p></span></li>
 </ul>
</ul>

<ul type=disc>
 <ul type=circle>
  <ul type=square>
   <li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l6 level3 lfo8'><span lang=EN-US
       style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Is awaiting
       information from the ALAC. <o:p></o:p></span></li>
   <li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l6 level3 lfo8'><span lang=EN-US
       style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Is willing in
       cooperation with users to identify user representatives, especially
       individual users, who would be willing to work with the ALAC and
       At-Large community to develop a recommendation. <o:p></o:p></span></li>
   <li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l6 level3 lfo8'><span lang=EN-US
       style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Will promptly
       consider next steps and respond to the Board as quickly as possible
       after requested information is received from the ALAC as well any
       recommendation that may be developed by the ALAC and At-Large community.
       <o:p></o:p></span></li>
  </ul>
 </ul>
</ul>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>The motion passed
unanimously by voice vote <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br>
<br>
*Letter from the Chair of the ALAC to the Chair of the Board of ICANN*<br>
<br>
I write to you today in connection with ICANN Board Resolution 2008-12-11-02.<br>
<br>
Whilst the resolution asked that a recommendation on the modalities for
including Individual Internet users in the GNSO should be presented to the
board by 24^th January, the various parties have been unable to conclude work
in the timeframe provided. Considering that much of the available time between
11^th December and 24^th January was over the festive season, I'm sure you and
the other board members will understand that whilst we are working on the
question, as volunteers during a major family holiday we have had less time for
this issue than would otherwise be the case.<br>
<br>
With respect to At-Large we are also very busy with new gTLDs, the ALAC Review,
and the organisation of the At-Large Summit; the Board's request really
couldn't have come at a worse time.<br>
<br>
Nevertheless we are working on the question. I have had discussions with Avri
Doria, GNSO Council Chair, on how to convene the various interested parties and
I compliment her efforts to encourage constructive work on this question.
Unfortunately the modalities for joint work by all interested parties has in
itself proven controversial enough that no meeting of that kind has taken place
yet, it does appear that things are moving in a positive direction and that
discussions of a suitably representative nature will be forthcoming.<br>
<br>
In the meantime, At-Large has convened a regionally-balanced ad-hoc working
group and we have committed to having a considered response not later than
20^th February, irrespective of what efforts involving broader interests is
able to produce.<br>
<br>
What we can say to you at this point is the following:<br>
<br>
   * At-Large and ALAC does not believe that the answer to individual<br>
     Internet user participation in the GNSO requires -- or
is even<br>
     well-served -- by simply inserting the At-Large
community's<br>
     structures into the Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group.
In fact, we<br>
     believe that would be both confusing to the community
and quite<br>
     counterproductive.<br>
   * The concept of opening the GNSO to "users" instead of<br>
     "registrants" was included in the Report of
the Working Group on<br>
     GNSO Council Restructuring at the instigation of the
ALAC. We<br>
     remain convinced that the GNSO must include meaningful<br>
     participation for those speaking on behalf of
individual Internet<br>
     users within both the commercial and non-commercial
stakeholder<br>
     groups. But to be clear, our definition of
"user" includes<br>
     registrants.<br>
   * "meaningful participation" in this context means that
those<br>
     engaged on behalf of individual Internet users must
feel that<br>
     their voices are influential and effective and equal
to the voices<br>
     of other groups in their Stakeholder Group. Without
this, there is<br>
     no chance that new players can be drawn into the GNSO
community.<br>
   * We have seen the draft NCUC petition and charter for the NCSG,<br>
     held a meeting with members of the NCUC during the
ICANN Cairo<br>
     meeting to discuss it and we continue to evaluate the
proposal.<br>
     Without prejudice to that proposal, we believe that
the ultimate<br>
     structure of the NCSG must provide a place where all
voices and<br>
     views can be heard on the questions of the day, and
where the<br>
     structures of the NCSG ensure that no voice is
disenfranchised and<br>
     in particular that individual personalities are unable
to impose<br>
     their views on others. Just as "takeover" is
an issue within ICANN<br>
     as a whole, it is also an issue within a SG.<br>
<br>
Whilst I know that the above is not all that you hoped to receive from us this
month, I hope that you will find it useful and we look forward to concluding
our work on this question, as soon as possible.<br>
<br>
Of course if you or your colleagues require clarification on any of the above,
I,  our ALAC Executive, and the Working Group established for this topic,
remain at your service.<br>
<br>
<br>
Kindest regards,<br>
<br>
(Signed on behalf the ALAC ad-hoc WG on NCSG : GNSO Improvements
Implementation)<br>
<br>
Cheryl Langdon-Orr<br>
ALAC Chair 2007-2009<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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