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class=904393621-12052009>I can't support this letter. Because I am in the
middle of the IRT's 3-day F2F, I am not in a position to propose revised
language. Given these contraints, it would be OK with me if the
Council nonetheless wanted to send the letter and note in it that I have
abstained.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> owner-council@gnso.icann.org
[mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Stéphane Van
Gelder<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 12, 2009 10:06 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Council
GNSO<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [council] GNSO Council letter to the
GAC<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Following on, for clarity here is the draft modified
to take Edmon’s comments into account.<BR><BR>Stéphane<BR><BR><BR>Le 12/05/09
15:51, « Stéphane Van Gelder » <<A
href="stephane.vangelder@indom.com">stephane.vangelder@indom.com</A>> a
écrit :<BR><BR></SPAN></FONT>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Edmon,<BR><BR>Ì think that is a very useful
suggestion, thank you. As the clock is running, I am copying this to the
Council list.<BR><BR>I am fine with you edit and will amend the draft
accordingly unless anyone
objects.<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR><BR>Stéphane<BR><BR><BR>Le 12/05/09 12:25,
« Edmon Chung » <<A
href="edmon@registry.asia">edmon@registry.asia</A>> a
écrit :<BR><BR></SPAN></FONT>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">sorry for the late response... I do see that the
48 hr clock started clicking so did not want to send this to the council
list unless you feel comfortable about it...<BR> <BR>you had:
"</SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">No such
restrictions are imposed on existing gTLD registries and we feel it would
be<BR>inappropriate to attempt to use the new gTLD program to introduce
new contractual<BR>obligations previously not requested or deemed
necessary."<BR> <BR>I don't think that is entirely true... in our
contract and in all the ones in the s round, there is a
clause:<BR>"</SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">All geographic and geopolitical names contained in
the ISO 3166-1 list from time to time shall initially be reserved at both
the second level and at all other levels within the TLD at which the
Registry Operator provides for registrations. All names shall be reserved
both in English and in all related official languages as may be directed
by ICANN or the GAC."<BR> <BR>What this effectively means is that
registries have had to use the other ISO lists previously already to
produce the "reserved both in English and in all related official
languages" part.<BR> <BR>Then of course there is the other part in
the agreement that says:<BR>"In addition, Registry Operator shall reserve
names of territories, distinct geographic locations, and other geographic
and geopolitical names as ICANN may direct from time to
time."<BR> <BR>Would like to suggest edits as
follows:<BR> <BR>Restrictions are already imposed on existing gTLD
registries in this regard, especially with regards to those adopted for
the sTLD round of gTLDs. We feel that current contractual
obligations are already appropriate and new contractual obligations maybe
unnecessary.<BR> <BR> <BR>Edmon<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR></SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT
face="Tahoma, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><B>From:</B> <A
href="owner-council@gnso.icann.org">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</A> [<A
href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org</A>]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Stéphane Van Gelder<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 12,
2009 4:12 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Council GNSO<BR><B>Subject:</B> [council] GNSO
Council letter to the GAC<BR></FONT></SPAN><FONT size=4><FONT
face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Dear
all,<BR><BR>In a letter dated April 24 2009, GAC Chair Janis Karklins
wrote to ICANN CEO Paul Twomey on the subject of geographical names and
the new gTLD process.<BR><BR>At our Council meeting last week, it was
decided that we should respond to this letter and I volunteered to write a
draft. We agreed that our response should be sent to the GAC asap,
preferably by the end of this week, and Avri informed the GAC that they
should expect a response from the GNSO Council by this Friday.<BR><BR>In
order to fine-tune our draft response, a team was set up and I submitted
my draft to the team yesterday.<BR><BR>The team responded very quickly in
order to meet the Council’s Friday deadline and considered my draft “good
to go”, with one addition by David Maher and a comment by Avri, both of
which have been included in the draft letter we are submitting to the full
Council today (see attached).<BR><BR>Could you please review and let me
know of any further changes you would like to make, or of your approval,
so that Avri may then send the finished letter to the GAC on
Friday.<BR><BR>My thanks to the members of the drafting team: David Maher
- Avri Doria - Nacho Amadoz - Edmon Chung - Brian Cute - Ken Stubbs - Olga
Cavalli - Tony Harris - Terry Davis – William
Drake.<BR><BR>Best,<BR><BR>Stéphane Van Gelder</SPAN></FONT><FONT
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