<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Seems like the right approach.<div><br></div><div>Bill</div><div><br><div><div>On May 30, 2009, at 3:48 AM, Olga Cavalli wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">I think this letter is a good idea.<br>Olga<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/5/29 Stéphane Van Gelder <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stephane.vangelder@indom.com">stephane.vangelder@indom.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <br> Would anyone be strongly opposed to a brief letter from Avri as she suggest?<br> After all, it's pretty clear that the GNSO Council is not in agreement with<br> the reservation of names at the 2nd level as suggested by the GAC letter...<br> <br> Stéphane<br> <br> <br> Le 29/05/09 22:53, « Gomes, Chuck » <<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com">cgomes@verisign.com</a>> a écrit :<br> <div><div></div><div class="h5"><br> ><br> > If we cannot do a letter before our meeting with the GAC in Sydney, then<br> > shouldn't we at least develop talking points about this for our meeting with<br> > the GAC.<br> ><br> > Chuck<br> ><br> >> -----Original Message-----<br> >> From: <a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a><br> >> [mailto:<a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>] On Behalf Of Avri Doria<br> >> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 4:16 PM<br> >> To: Council GNSO<br> >> Subject: Re: [council] GAC Responds to Board on Geographic Names<br> >><br> >><br> >> Hi,<br> >><br> >> If the council is willing to draft and send such a letter I<br> >> am sure it could.<br> >> Given the issue raised over the sending of our previous<br> >> letter, we would need to make sure that the process included<br> >> time for any constituencies that wished to comment before<br> >> sending. I am not sure what that means in terms of time, but<br> >> I am not certain we could complete it before Sydney.<br> >><br> >> Alternatively I could draft a brief letter from the chair,<br> >> indicating that the interpretation is not, in my opinion,<br> >> necessarily consistent with GNSO position and that except<br> >> for specific issues where the GNSO council has published an<br> >> explicit consensus statement to the contrary, it remains<br> >> interested in seeing that the Policy recommendations made in<br> >> 2007 for new gTLDs be implemented.<br> >><br> >> Are council members interested in either of these, a variant<br> >> or another option?<br> >><br> >> a.<br> >><br> >> On 29 May 2009, at 11:51, Stéphane Van Gelder wrote:<br> >><br> >>> Avri,<br> >>><br> >>> I agree this position needs to be reiterated. How do you<br> >> suggest doing<br> >>> so?<br> >>> Would a formal email to Janis be the right way to go?<br> >>><br> >>> Thanks,<br> >>><br> >>> Stéphane<br> >>><br> >>><br> >>> Le 29/05/09 16:48, « Avri Doria » <<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org">avri@acm.org</a>> a écrit :<br> >>><br> >>>><br> >>>> Hi,<br> >>>><br> >>>> As I mentioned in the call yesterday, I personally argue that the<br> >>>> GNSO and GAC are _not_ in agreement on the reservation of<br> >> names at<br> >>>> the 2nd level and that the GAC letter is mistaken in this<br> >> asumption.<br> >>>> In a conversation with Janis Karklins after he received the letter<br> >>>> and asked me if the GAC could so assume, I answered that it _could<br> >>>> not_.<br> >>>> I went on to point out that the only meaning that could be<br> >> taken from<br> >>>> our not explicitly discussing the reservation of names at<br> >> the second<br> >>>> level was that we had not come to full consensus on this yet and<br> >>>> discussions were still ongoing on the GNSO council's<br> >> position on this<br> >>>> subject. I can only assume that I was not clear enough or<br> >> explicit<br> >>>> enough in my comments to him.<br> >>>><br> >>>> I believe that it is important to reiterate that the GNSO still<br> >>>> supports its supermajority decision in 2007 on the policy<br> >>>> recommendation that emerged from the bottom-up process and<br> >> that the<br> >>>> GNSO council viewed any deviations from those policy<br> >> recommendations<br> >>>> with concern, even in cases where it did not make an explicit<br> >>>> consensus based public statement.<br> >>>><br> >>>> a.<br> >>>><br> >>>><br> >>>> On 29 May 2009, at 10:32, Glen de Saint Géry wrote:<br> >>>><br> >>>>><br> >>>>> [To: council[at]<a href="http://gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">gnso.icann.org</a>; liaison6c[at]<a href="http://gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">gnso.icann.org</a>]<br> >>>>> [To: ga[at]<a href="http://gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">gnso.icann.org</a>; announce[at]<a href="http://gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">gnso.icann.org</a>]<br> >>>>> [To: regional-liaisons[at]<a href="http://icann.org" target="_blank">icann.org</a>]<br> >>>>><br> >>>>> <a href="http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-28may09-en.htm" target="_blank">http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-28may09-en.htm</a><br> >>>>><br> >>>>> GAC Responds to Board on Geographic Names<br> >>>>><br> >>>>> 28 May 2009<br> >>>>><br> >>>>> On 26 May 2009, the GAC submitted a final letter [PDF, 72K]<br> >>>>> <a href="http://www.icann.org/correspondence/karklins-to-twomey-26may09-" target="_blank">http://www.icann.org/correspondence/karklins-to-twomey-26may09-</a><br> >>>>> en.pdf<br> >>>>> responding to the ICANN Board's concerns about the ability to<br> >>>>> implement the provisions of article 2 of the GAC Principles<br> >>>>> regarding new gTLDs, particularly paragraph 2.71. The letter<br> >>>>> recommends, as a minimum, that the names contained in three<br> >>>>> internationally recognised lists must be reserved at the second<br> >>>>> level at no cost to governments of all new gTLDs. However, other<br> >>>>> issues relating to geographic names at the top level and the<br> >>>>> potential misuse of the respective names at the second level<br> >>>>> requires further discussion.<br> >>>>><br> >>>>> The GAC's letter is in response to the 6 March, 2009 ICANN Board<br> >>>>> resolution, and subsequent letter from ICANN of 17 March, 2009<br> >>>>> seeking GAC members input on possible options to resolve the<br> >>>>> outstanding implementation issues regarding the protection of<br> >>>>> geographic names at the second level<br> >>>>> (<a href="http://www.icann.org/en/minutes/resolutions-06mar09.htm#08" target="_blank">http://www.icann.org/en/minutes/resolutions-06mar09.htm#08</a><br> >>>>> and<br> >>>>><br> >> <a href="http://www.icann.org/correspondence/twomey-to-karklins-17mar09-en.pd" target="_blank">http://www.icann.org/correspondence/twomey-to-karklins-17mar09-en.pd</a><br> >>>>> f)<br> >>>>> [PDF, 245K].<br> >>>>><br> >>>>> The GAC provided an interim response to this request on 24 April<br> >>>>> 2009<br> >>>>> <a href="http://www.icann.org/correspondence/karklins-to-twomey-24apr09.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.icann.org/correspondence/karklins-to-twomey-24apr09.pdf</a><br> >>>>> [PDF, 95K].<br> >>>>><br> >>>>> On 15 May 2009, the GNSO Council provided comments on the<br> >> proposal<br> >>>>> outlined in the GAC's letter of 24 April 2009,<br> >>>>> <a href="http://gnso.icann.org/correspondence/gnso-ltr-to-gac.pdf" target="_blank">http://gnso.icann.org/correspondence/gnso-ltr-to-gac.pdf</a><br> >>>>> [PDF, 69K].<br> >>>>><br> >>>>> The Board requested a final report from the GAC by 25<br> >> May, 2009 and<br> >>>>> which will now be published 29 May, 2009.<br> >>>>><br> >> <a href="http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-2-24apr09-en.htm" target="_blank">http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-2-24apr09-en.htm</a><br> >>>>><br> >>>>><br> >>>>> Glen de Saint Géry<br> >>>>> GNSO Secretariat<br> >>>>> <a href="mailto:gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org">gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org</a><br> >>>>> <a href="http://gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">http://gnso.icann.org</a><br> >>>>><br> >>>>><br> >>>>><br> >>>>><br> >>>><br> >>>><br> >>><br> >>><br> >>><br> >><br> >><br> >><br> ><br> <br> <br> <br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br></blockquote></div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; 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