Thanks Chuck and Kristina.<br>I agree with Chuck that it could be useful to involve the new NCA Andrey in this exchange of ideas.<br>What do others think?<br>regards<br>Olga<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/9/11 Rosette, Kristina <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:krosette@cov.com">krosette@cov.com</a>></span><br>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">see my additional comments below. (I have *not* yet
gotten IPC input - these are my personal comments.) </font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font></span> </div><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span>It seems reasonable to
require that we have current
</span>Statements of Interest from each of the NCA appointees before making a decision</font></font></font>
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<font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gomes,
Chuck<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 11, 2009 10:24 AM<br><b>To:</b> Olga
Cavalli<br><b>Cc:</b> GNSO Council<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [council] NCAs in
the new GNSO Council structure<br></font><br></div><div class="im">
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Thanks Olga for the input. Please see my responses
below.</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Chuck</font></span></div><br>
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<font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:olgacavalli@gmail.com" target="_blank">olgacavalli@gmail.com</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:olgacavalli@gmail.com" target="_blank">olgacavalli@gmail.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Olga
Cavalli<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:04 PM<br><b>To:</b>
Gomes, Chuck<br><b>Cc:</b> GNSO Council<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [council]
NCAs in the new GNSO Council structure<br></font><br></div>
<div></div>Hi,<br>being an NCA, I would like to add my thoughts in relation
to our role in the new GNSO:<br><br>
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<p><span>O</span>ption a<span>:</span> <span> T</span>he NCAs talk it
through and figure out which roles seem right to
them.</p></span></span></div></li></ul>
<div>Could be a valid option, but one of the NCAs will be new in the
council, so he could hardly figure out which role to select.<br><span><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2">[Gomes, Chuck] Regardless of how the Council ultimately decides
to make this decision, I think that the input from the NCAs would
be useful in making that decision. Also, I think it would be fine
to at least invite Andrey to participate in your discussion along
with the three existing NCAs. <span> </span></font></font></font></span></div>
</div><div><span><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span>[KR]: I
agree that input will be helpful, but should not be dispositive.
See my comment on Option d
below.</span></font></font></font></span><br></div><div class="im">
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<p><span>O</span>ption b<span>:</span> <span> R</span><span>andom
selection.</span></p></span></span></div></li></ul>
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<div>In my oppinon it brings no value in it. <br></div>
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<p><span></span><span>O</span>ption c<span>:</span> <span>
T</span>he council members decide with <span>random selection of
which House </span>chooses
first.</p></span></span></div></li></ul></div></blockquote></div>
<div>This is another version of the random selection. <br></div>
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<p><span>Option d: The two Houses collaborate and decide among
them where the NCAs will be
assigned.</span></p></span></span></div></li></ul></div></blockquote></div>
<div>This could be an option but perhaps it should add a possible refusal by
the NCA, in the case that he/she is not in favour of serving one of the
houses or becoming a homeless. What I want to say is that it sounds unfair
just say where NCAs go and not having any feedback about their
expectations.<br><span><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2">[Gomes, Chuck] You make a valid point
Olga. I don't think we would benefit very much if an NCA was placed in
a place where they didn't want to be or thought they could not add much
value. <span> </span></font></font></font></span></div>
</div><div><span><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span>[KR]: I
agree that NCA input is useful, but not dispositive. For
example, one NCA will have to be non-voting (can we not use "homeless",
please?). If all three "refuse" to be the non-voting NCA and we've
committed to honoring those preferences, we've created quite a mess
for ourselves.
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<p><span>Option <span><font face="Arial" size="2">e</font></span>: The
new, inexperienced NCA rep assumes the non-voting Council seat and one
of the above options is used to assign the two House
seats.</span></p></span></span></div></li></ul></div></blockquote></div>
<div>It should not be for the two years, it takes out the stress to voting
in the first meetings, where there is a lot to read and sometimes it is hard
to decide.<br><span><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2">[Gomes, Chuck] It seems to me that we
could specify that the assignments are for one year only and request that
the NomCom be tasked with assigning all three NCAs to seats in the following
year. <span> </span></font></font></font></span></div>
</div><div><span><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span>[KR] I like
Chuck's suggestion.
</span></font></font></font></span><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><br>The problem I see with this
approach is that the fact of voting necesarily pushes towards understanding,
reading, asking, which at the beginning is challenging and good for the
future performance of the NCA in the council. If you are new and you do not
have to vote, then you do not have that incentive and you may loose some
momentum.<br><br></div></div></div><div><div></div><div class="h5">
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<li><span lang="EN">
<p><span><span lang="EN"><span>Option f: The experienced NCA rep
assumes the non-voting Coundil seat and one of the above options is used
to assign the two House seats</span></span></span></p></span></li></ul>There
is value in active participation without voting, so this option could be
valid.<br>
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<li><span lang="EN">
<p><span><span lang="EN"><span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span><span lang="EN"><span>Option g: (Combination of option a and d)
</span></span></span><span><span lang="EN"><span>The two Houses collaborate
and decide among them where the NCAs will be assigned, with a refusal
option by any of the NCAs.</span></span></span></p></span></li></ul>Regards
to all.<br>Olga<br><br><br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">2009/9/10 Gomes, Chuck <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a>></span><br>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Several have expressed views on this. It would be helpful if
we could have more list discussion about the various options and any
others anyone proposes in the next week. Our plan is to make a
decision on this along with the plan for seating Councilors in Seoul on 24
September. Please get input from the groups you
represent.</font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Thanks, Chuck</font></span></div><br>
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<font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Olga
Cavalli<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 04, 2009 2:48 PM<br><b>To:</b>
GNSO Council<br><b>Subject:</b> [council] NCAs in the new GNSO Council
structure<br></font><br></div>
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<div></div>
<div>Hi,<br>as discussed yesterday in the conference call, and
to start the discussion in our list, I am including possible options for
assigning the role of the three NCAs in the new structure of the GNSO
Council:<br><br><span><span lang="EN">
<p><span>O</span>ption a<span>:</span> <span> T</span>he NCAs talk
it through and figure out which roles seem right to them.</p>
<p><span>O</span>ption b<span>:</span> <span> R</span><span>andom
selection.</span></p>
<p><span>O</span>ption c<span>:</span> <span> T</span>he council
members decide with <span>random selection of which
House </span>chooses first.</p>
<p><span>Option d: The two Houses collaborate and decide among
them where the NCAs will be assigned.</span></p>
<p><span>Option <span><font face="Arial" size="2">e</font></span>: The
new, inexperienced NCA rep assumes the non-voting Council seat and one
of the above options is used to assign the two House seats.</span></p>
<p><span><span lang="EN"><span>Option f: The experienced NCA
rep assumes the non-voting Coundil seat and one of the above options is
used to assign the two House seats</span></span></span><span><span lang="EN"><span><br></span></span></span></p>
<p><span><span lang="EN"><span>Option g: (Combination of option a and d)
</span></span></span><span><span lang="EN"><span>The two Houses
collaborate and decide among them where the NCAs will be assigned, with
a refusal option by any of the
NCAs.<br></span></span></span></p></span></span><span><span lang="EN"></span></span><br>Please iclude other options thay you may think
of and share your comments about this in the list. <br><br>We should
decide about this in our next GNSO conference call on 24
September.<br><br>Best regards<br>Olga<font face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"></span></font><br><br><br><br><br></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Olga Cavalli, Dr. Ing.<br>
<a href="http://www.south-ssig.com.ar" target="_blank">www.south-ssig.com.ar</a><br></div></div></blockquote></blockquote></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Olga Cavalli, Dr. Ing.<br><a href="http://www.south-ssig.com.ar">www.south-ssig.com.ar</a><br>