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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I can’t see how spending time working on and fostering better
relations is wasted. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I would have thought it might have, indeed, saved time with
decision making and with discussions if we had a better understanding between
each other.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>No matter – let’s focus on our “Community time”
on Saturday and Sunday. I certainly wouldn’t want to offend them. I will
send an email shortly regarding my thoughts on the “</span><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>HUGE
amount of policy topics and discussions that need to take place on Saturday and
Sunday”.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The Registrars will be at the bar on Saturday night and will
happily buy any other Council members a drink and discuss any issues they have
with us. We will do it in a closed area and you will be patted down for
listening or recording devices. You must sign a Confidentiality Agreement and
you will be supplied with tissues should we bring you to tears with our “gripes”
(or to wipe away tears of laughter). We will also have our Legal Counsel on
hand should you with to litigate.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Looking forward to Seoul.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Adrian Kinderis</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> owner-council@gnso.icann.org
[mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Avri Doria<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 18 September 2009 2:54 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Council GNSO<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [council] Fwd: GNSO Closed Meeting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Begin forwarded message:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>From:
</span></b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>"Neuman,
Jeff" <<a href="mailto:Jeff.Neuman@neustar.us">Jeff.Neuman@neustar.us</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Date:
</span></b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>17
September 2009 17:31:03 GMT+02:00</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Subject:
GNSO Closed Meeting</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Chuck,
Adrian, Avri, Mary, Stephane & Kristina</span><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I
cannot post on the Council list, but would appreciate this getting forwarded. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I
strongly object to any closed formal meetings of the Council during the weekend
preceding the ICANN meeting for a gripe session or frankly for any
reason. I have attended each of the pre-meetings of the ICANN meetings
for the past I am not sure how many meetings despite not being on the
Council. I am technically an officer of a constituency, but never attend
those meetings in that capacity and would still object even if I were included. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I
participate in these meetings because I truly believe it is where a lot of the
real discussion takes place. The formal GNSO Council meetings on the
Wednesday are more show than discussion. Maybe it is because there has
been so much discussion prior to the Wednesday meeting that everyone has
formulated their opinions, or maybe Councilors are not comfortable having the
discussions up on the stage, who knows. The reason is not so important.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>But
there is a HUGE amount of policy topics and discussions that need to take place
on Saturday and Sunday. Its hard enough to find time to schedule working
group meetings during those days (where many Councilors participate). To
take up this precious time to do a closed gripe session is not only bad for the
reasons stated by Avri and others, but may also disrespectful to other members of
the GNSO Community that do come early to the meetings to work on policy. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>If
you want to have dinner (after the end of the formal day “on your own
time”), I have no objection to that. That may be a good idea.
But I ask that we not use valuable policy development time for this.
After all, its not really GNSO Council Time, but technically, GNSO Community
time.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>There
is just too much to do.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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