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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=355114922-24102009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Thanks Mike. Maybe we will have time to discuss this
in our breakfast meeting.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=355114922-24102009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Chuck</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> owner-council@gnso.icann.org
[mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Mike
Rodenbaugh<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, October 24, 2009 5:42 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
GNSO Council<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [council] End of the Shadow
Council<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Hi Chuck,<o:p></o:p></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">This is not a policy
development issue, but instead is administrative. I have twice been
elected to represent the BC in Council administrative matters.
Specifically per our Charter section 4.1</SPAN><SPAN
class=apple-style-span><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">,
“[t]</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: gray; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">he representatives will
act in the GNSO Council as representatives of and spokespersons for the
Constituency and will collaborate with other members of the Council in pursuit
of the mission of the Constituency.”</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=apple-style-span><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I am only trying to discontinue an unwarranted
privilege by which unrepresentative persons increasingly usurp the role of
representative Councilors and Liaisons, and which unduly takes time from the
entire Council and Staff.</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Do you have any reasoned argument against
this?<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Mike<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Mike
Rodenbaugh<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">RODENBAUGH
LAW<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">548 Market
Street<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">San Francisco, CA
94104<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><A
href="http://service.ringcentral.com/ringme/callback.asp?mbid=57178438,0,&referer=http://rodenbaugh.com/contact"><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d">(415) 738-8087</SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 13.5pt"><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d"><A href="http://rodenbaugh.com/"><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d">http://rodenbaugh.com</SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> Gomes, Chuck
[mailto:cgomes@verisign.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, October 24, 2009 2:15
PM<BR><B>To:</B> icann@rodenbaugh.com; GNSO Council<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
[council] End of the Shadow Council<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Mike,</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Is
this a CBUC request?</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Chuck</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Mike Rodenbaugh<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, October 24, 2009
4:42 PM<BR><B>To:</B> GNSO Council<BR><B>Subject:</B> [council] End of the
Shadow Council</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Dear Colleagues,<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>I write again regarding the so-called “Observers” at
face-to-face GNSO Council meetings. <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Of course, I fully support that our face-to-face meetings
are generally always open to true observers, both those present and located
remotely. And I fully support that all of our meetings are generally
fully recorded and transcribed. Indeed I think they should be
translated, and that our conference calls be opened in real time to the
public, with non-speaking access. I fully support that our email list
is open and archived. All of this allows the public to see how the
Council operates in practically real-time, and to experience the information
and debate first-hand. Council must have flexibility to close its
sessions and/or communicate privately, when it deems necessary for any
stated and agreed reason. But I believe that has never happened to
date, and of course the default must be open meetings and open
communications.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>However, the growing trend is for GNSO “Observers” to
participate in the Council’s weekend face-to-face meetings on equal footing
with Councilors, Liasons and Staff. A small and growing group of
privileged observers, none of whom are elected or appointed to represent
anyone but themselves and/or their specific organizations, are increasingly
taking an inordinate amount of Council and Staff time. In effect, they
are a “Shadow Council” that follows the Council from meeting to meeting,
taking advantage of a privilege they ought not have. This must stop,
effective immediately. <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>It is not scalable as the community of interested
observers grows and diversifies. It is not fair in any way:
<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.75in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings">n</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'">
</SPAN>Not fair to Councilors and Liasons who offer great personal sacrifice
to travel long distances away from their lives, volunteering an overly full
weekend in advance of a lengthy five-day meeting. <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.75in"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.75in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings">n</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'">
</SPAN>Not fair to the constituents who elected or appointed the Councilors
and Liasons, expecting that they (and only they) would serve as those
constituents’ representatives on Council. <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.75in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings">n</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'">
</SPAN>Not fair to the general public whose only opportunities for input to
Council are via the Constituencies, Working Groups or public comment
periods. Particularly not fair to the general public that does not
speak English, or who cannot attend the sessions, as they have no equal
ability to participate vis a vis the “Shadow Council”.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.75in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings">n</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'">
</SPAN>Not fair to the Staff nor the Council as a whole, whose only
opportunity to communicate face-to-face is during these
meetings.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>The GNSO Council is a representative body. The
representative Councilors and designated Liaisons must be allowed to do
their jobs, which absolutely requires face-to-face interaction with Staff
and with each other -- without constant ‘clarifying questions’, ‘points of
order’, comments or questions from the public. To my
knowledge, no other SO, nor the GAC nor the Board – nor any other council,
committee or board anywhere in the world -- ever allow such privilege to
observers. Such points should be raised through Council
representatives, or during any or all of the many opportunities for public
comment into the Council processes. Indeed this is the
reason-for-being of the Constituencies themselves, of Working Groups, of
public comment periods in general, and of the public comment periods allowed
at the Council’s face-to-face meetings (which can also be used in our
weekend sessions, if time allows).<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Therefore, beginning with the newTLD session today, I
request that observers be disallowed equal access to the Council table and
microphones, just as they are disallowed such access at our larger public
meetings and in our conference calls. The material presented by Staff
in the session today will doubtless be repeated during a public session
later in the week, which is a perfect opportunity for anyone to ask their
questions or make their points directly to the Staff, without wasting
tremendously valuable and scarce face-to-face Council/Staff time. As
we have seen, too many people are abusing the privilege of open access to
raise points that they then raise again and again at every opportunity
throughout the ICANN meeting, and/or to communicate their particular,
non-representative interests. They are abusing a privilege that they
should not have in the first place, because it is not fair.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Does anyone have an argument as to why the current
privilege should be allowed to continue? Is anyone aware of any other
council, board or committee, anywhere in the world, that allows such a
privilege to observers?<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Otherwise, I hope the privilege will be discontinued
immediately, and request Avri to confirm via reply to this list. If
not, my next effort to stop this will be an Ombudsman complaint, on behalf
of the entire community, so that this practice is investigated by a neutral
party and discussed formally at the Council and/or Board level(s). I
also request that the relevant OSC team discuss this and recommend
appropriate provisions in our Council Rules of Procedure to ensure that
nobody is given undue and disruptive access to Council, Liaisons and Staff
during our meetings. <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Each and every member of the community – other than the
“Shadow Councilors” and their specific organizations -- suffer from the
continuation of this unwarranted and unseemly privilege that offered to just
a few, at the expense of the many.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Mike<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Mike Rodenbaugh<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>RODENBAUGH LAW<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>548 Market Street<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>San Francisco, CA 94104<o:p></o:p></P>
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738-8087</A><o:p></o:p></P>
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