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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I agree with Chuck and Stephane, except there are other parts of
the GNSO Recommendations that also must be followed in any EoI process,
particularly the communication plan. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Also, it is possible that any EoI process will lead to efforts
to categorize and prioritize the many applications that are expected.
That would be a variance from </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Council’s</span><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> recommendations, and
should fall within Council’s remit to do that work if necessary.
Conflicts of interest will probably be an issue at that point</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>, for
many of us.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <b>On Behalf
Of </b>Stéphane Van Gelder<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 12, 2009 12:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gomes, Chuck<br>
<b>Cc:</b> GNSO Council<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [council] Fwd: Update on "Expressions of
Interest" Group<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I don't think the EOI work needs to fall under a PDP
process. Tim has made what I consider to be a valid point about this on the EOI
group list. This is just <span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:
9.0pt;color:#010101'>an implementation issue that relates to the GNSO
recommendations for an orderly and predictable rollout. The EOI would not
change the application process, or any recommendations of the GNSO. It
just provides better order and predictability for the application process.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#010101'>Stéphane</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Le 10 nov. 2009 à 00:58, Gomes, Chuck a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span lang=DE
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Von:</span></b><span
lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>
[mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Gomes, Chuck<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 9. November 2009 21:37<br>
<b>An:</b> Stéphane Van Gelder; <a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> RE: [council] Fwd: Update on "Expressions of
Interest" Group</span><span lang=DE><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>I compliment those involved with the EoI group in what I believe
are sincere efforts to make some constructive contributions to the new gTLD
process. I think we should always encourage community members to take
initiate and collaborate with other similarly minded community members in
developing input to ICANN processes.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>I am assuming that they sent a letter to Rod, Peter, Doug
and Kurt because the Board passed a motion regarding a possible EoI
effort. In that letter they said, "</span><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:blue'>Our consensus-based,
cross-community final draft will be presented to staff with minimal delay so
that they can take comments from the wider community and subsequently prepare a
plan for the Board as called for in the Board resolution.</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>"
Based on the proposed membership of the group, I conclude that they define
'cross-community' as those who are strongly interested in speeding up
the new gTLD process, so when they say 'consensus-based', it appears
that they mean consensus of like minded parties. That is okay in my
opinion as long as they are clear about that and don't try to represent their
efforts otherwise.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Their efforts are clearly not an effort of the GNSO because they
have not made any efforts to communicate with the GNSO Council in its role
as the policy management body for the GNSO. As far as I am
aware, they have not asked the GNSO Council to provide an observer to
their group. I am not suggesting that they are in any way required to
involve the Council, but at some point it seems to me that the issues they
are confronting will need to come back to the GNSO. Without being
critical in any way, they may not want this to be a GNSO process because, if it
was, we would need to follow the GNSO PDP in the Bylaws.</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Because we have not received a request to provide an
observer, it doesn't seem to me that we are in a position to provide an
observer. If they did invite the Council to provide an observer on behalf of
the GNSO, what would the role of that observer be? We would need to understand
that before making any decisions.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Based on what we know right now, I don't think there is anything to
prevent Stephane from participating in the EoI group as long as it is clear
that he is doing so strictly in his personal capacity and not as a representative
from the Council.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Other thoughts are welcome.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Chuck</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>
[mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Stéphane Van Gelder<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 09, 2009 12:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [council] Fwd: Update on "Expressions of Interest"
Group</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Hello
all.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Please find below, and
attached, information on an "expressions of interest" group that is
being formed in response to one of the Board resolutions from the Seoul
meeting.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Please note that although I
am listed as GNSO Observer, I have made no claims to holding such status. I was
invited to join in a personal capacity and requested if I could inform the
Council of the existence of the group.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>If the Council would like me
to play the role of observer to this group, I would be happy to do so. If
however the Council wishes for someone else to play that role, I would be happy
to forward that name to the group and have their initial charter/proposal
amended to reflect this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Stéphane<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Début du message réexpédié :<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>De
: </span></b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Antony
Van Couvering <<a href="mailto:avc@mindsandmachines.com">avc@mindsandmachines.com</a>></span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Date
: </span></b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>6
novembre 2009 17:18:17 HNEC</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>À
: </span></b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Liz
Williams <<a href="mailto:lizawilliams@mac.com">lizawilliams@mac.com</a>></span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Cc
: </span></b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Jothan
Frakes <<a href="mailto:jothan@mindsandmachines.com">jothan@mindsandmachines.com</a>>,
Alexander Schwertner <<a href="mailto:as@epag.de">as@epag.de</a>>, <a
href="mailto:bdelachapelle@gmail.com">bdelachapelle@gmail.com</a>, Johannes
Lenz-Hawliczek <<a href="mailto:lenz@dotberlin.de">lenz@dotberlin.de</a>>,
Nick Wood <<a href="mailto:nick.wood@comlaude.com">nick.wood@comlaude.com</a>>,
<a href="mailto:mcgradyp@gtlaw.com">mcgradyp@gtlaw.com</a>, Stéphane Van Gelder
<<a href="mailto:stephane.vangelder@indom.com">stephane.vangelder@indom.com</a>>,
Ruiz Tim <<a href="mailto:tim@godaddy.com">tim@godaddy.com</a>></span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Objet
: Update on "Expressions of Interest" Group</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Hi
everyone and thank you for either showing up at our initial meeting on October
29 in Seoul, or if you didn't, thanks for expressing your willingness to work
with us going forward.<br>
<br>
Jothan and I and Liz Williams have been working to get our documents in order.
I attach them here:<br>
<br>
1. Our charter<br>
2. Our draft proposal, incorporating input taken during our first meeting<br>
<br>
If you have comments, please note them and present them at our first
teleconference, which will be Monday, Nov. 16.<br>
<br>
We have set ourselves a tight schedule (see "timeline" in the
proposal), but we may be heartened by the fact that the question at hand is not
a complicated one. We foresee having two phone calls over the
next 10 days after which a draft proposal will be sent to the ICANN staff for
their polish (we are restricted to this methodology by the wording ICANN Board
resolution).<br>
<br>
In addition to confirming everyone receiving this email, we are reaching out to
others to join our group. Our prospective panel is listed in both
of the attached documents. We think it's representative of a good
cross-section of the ICANN community, as well being geographically diverse, and
we believe that these are people who will work to achieve consensus.
We don't know how many will agree but we hope most.<br>
<br>
One of us will be in touch soon to provide call-in information for our first
call, scheduled for Monday.<br>
<br>
I am of course available for questions, as is Liz.<br>
<br>
Thanks for your participation,<br>
<br>
Antony<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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