<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I am not sure how the rules will apply in exceptional circumstances. <br/><br/>The Chatham House rules require non attribution in general (somewhat like the MAG) so not sure how would this rule be implemented ONLY in exceptional circumstances and how this would be communicated in advance. How will this work?<br/><br/>Hope I haven't misunderstood the amendment.<br/><br/><p>
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</div><div><b>Date: </b>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 11:18:21 +0100</div><div><b>To: </b>Stéphane Van Gelder<stephane.vangelder@indom.com></div><div><b>Cc: </b>Gomes, Chuck<cgomes@verisign.com>; <KnobenW@telekom.de>; <council@gnso.icann.org>; <ispcp@icann.org></div><div><b>Subject: </b>Re: [council] Draft Council letter on the ARR</div><div><br/></div>what about Rafik's amendment, submitted on behalf of NCSG:<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Arial; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div>I would <span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; ">like to submit this following edit regarding this part :</span></div><div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; "><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; "><b>"Obviously, any such communications would need to respect reasonable</b></span></div><span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; "><b>restrictions like the review teams’ adherence to the Chatham House rule, and the SO/ACs should be expected to exercise prudence and to only make use of the opportunity when it is necessary to support the teams and/or convey major concerns." </b></span><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="border-collapse: collapse; "><br></span></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="border-collapse: collapse; ">with that one<br></span></font><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="border-collapse: collapse; "><br></span></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="border-collapse: collapse; "><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><b>"It is expected that any communications or other input sought and received will be provided in good faith, and that SOs/ACs will exercise prudence and make use of the opportunity when it is necessary to support the teams and/or convey major concerns. In exceptional circumstances, a SO or AC, the review teams or members thereof may consider it necessary to subject such communications or other input to reasonable restrictions such as the Chatham House rule, and where this is the case, the relevant parties to the affected communication or input shall, as far as possible, be informed in advance."</b></font></span></font></div></div></span></blockquote><div><br><div><div>On Jan 28, 2010, at 11:07 AM, Stéphane Van Gelder wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Yes<br><br>Le 27 janv. 2010 à 21:58, Gomes, Chuck a écrit :<br><br><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I would accept this as a friendly amendment. Stephan, as the seconder of the motion, would you also accept it as friendly?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Glen - please add this amendment to the motion.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Chuck <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">-----Original Message-----<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">From: <a href="mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de">KnobenW@telekom.de</a> [mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de] <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:36 PM<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">To: Gomes, Chuck; <a href="mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch">william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch</a>; <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Cc: <a href="mailto:ispcp@icann.org">ispcp@icann.org</a><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Subject: AW: [council] Draft Council letter on the ARR<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On behalf of the ISPCP constituency I'd like to suggest the <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">following edit regarding "Support Teams" (ST).<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">The draft amendment attached is targeted to provide more <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">flexibility to the Review Teams in order to let themselves <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">organize their support teams rather than to constitute <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">support teams in advance. <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Looking forward to a fruitful discussion Wolf-Ulrich<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Von: Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@verisign.com]<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. Januar 2010 23:35<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">An: Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich; <a href="mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch">william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch</a>; <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Cc: <a href="mailto:ispcp@icann.org">ispcp@icann.org</a><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Betreff: RE: [council] Draft Council letter on the ARR<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Thanks Wolf. If you could propose a suggested edit, it would <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">be very helpful.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Chuck <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">-----Original Message-----<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">From: <a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">[mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de">KnobenW@telekom.de</a><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:36 PM<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">To: <a href="mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch">william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch</a>; <a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Cc: <a href="mailto:ispcp@icann.org">ispcp@icann.org</a><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Subject: AW: [council] Draft Council letter on the ARR<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Following a consultation within the ISPCP constituency I'd like to <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">address the creation of "Support Teams" (ST). There must be a clear <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">distinction between the RTs and potential STs in order to avoid STs <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">emerging to "shadow" RTs. So the composition of the ST pools has <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">carefully to be taken into consideration or should even be <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">regulated. <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">If applicable this should be expressed in the council response.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Apart from that the ISPCP constituency endorses the draft response.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Wolf-Ulrich<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Von: <a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">[mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] Im Auftrag von William Drake<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Januar 2010 16:40<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">An: GNSO Council List<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Betreff: [council] Draft Council letter on the ARR<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Hello,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Attached please find the drafting team's proposed response to the <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">draft proposal on the Affirmation Reviews Requirements and <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Implementation Processes, for discussion with our <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">respective SGs and <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">in the Council.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Best,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Bill<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><br></div></blockquote></div><br><div>
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