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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Firstly, thanks to Margie for filling us in. It is indeed
interesting that a parallel process is in motion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Secondly, I believe the way to maximise the potential on this
effort would be to have it as a plan B. We are already seeing the timelines on
the PDP slip and an aggressive 16 weeks for completion was mentioned in the accepted
motion. Why not include a clause that says, for example, “should the PDP
not be concluded by time X that the staff position as set from the usual process
of community input would become the default (whatever that position may be)”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>This should provide the impetus for a speedy PDP and also
provide solace to those concerned that a PDP was nothing more than a mechanism
to derail the new gTLD process and cause further delays.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thoughts?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Adrian Kinderis</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> owner-council@gnso.icann.org
[mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Margie Milam<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 18 February 2010 4:09 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> icann@rodenbaugh.com<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'GNSO Council List'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [council] Vertical Integration<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Mike,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><br>
We have analyzed the length of time associated with recent PDPs, and the
average time from initiation to council vote is 406 days (see attached
summary).   When you factor in the fact that this issue is complex
and contentious,   this PDP may take longer than the average, and
most likely longer than the 16 weeks referenced in the GNSO resolution.  
 The divergence of opinions experienced to date in  developing the
charter for this PDP seems to support this conclusion.
     Also, we need to account for the time necessary
to obtain Board approval and to develop the implementation details associated
with the new policy, which further delays the commencement of the new policy.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <br>
Obviously, we will support the GNSO’s efforts to conclude this PDP in an
expedited manner, but want to make sure that we are realistic about what is
possible.<br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Best
Regards,<br>
 <br>
Margie<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Berlin Sans FB","sans-serif"'>______________<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Berlin Sans FB","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Berlin Sans FB","sans-serif"'>Margie
Milam<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Berlin Sans FB","sans-serif"'>Senior
Policy Counselor<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Berlin Sans FB","sans-serif"'>ICANN<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Berlin Sans FB","sans-serif"'>______________<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Mike Rodenbaugh
[mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 17, 2010 9:09 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Margie Milam; 'Stéphane Van Gelder'; 'Adrian Kinderis'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'GNSO Council List'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [council] Vertical Integration<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The Council motion also addressed the timing issue, prioritizing
the work by putting this PDP on a very quick path to completion.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hearing from Staff that it will take ‘years to
conclude’, at the outset, is disheartening and has no basis in
fact.  Council’s track record on PDPs in the past few years
indicates that they go much faster than that, as Staff ought to be well aware.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Mike Rodenbaugh<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>RODENBAUGH LAW<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>tel/fax:  +1 (415) 738-8087<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><a href="http://rodenbaugh.com/">http://rodenbaugh.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> owner-council@gnso.icann.org
[mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Margie Milam<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 17, 2010 7:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Stéphane Van Gelder; Adrian Kinderis<br>
<b>Cc:</b> GNSO Council List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [council] Vertical Integration<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Stéphane and Adrian,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Yes,  the Issues Report  on Vertical Integration
discussed this issue  (see page 24 of <a
href="http://gnso.icann.org/issues/vertical-integration/report-04dec09-en.pdf">http://gnso.icann.org/issues/vertical-integration/report-04dec09-en.pdf</a>).   
Because the outcome of a PDP is uncertain (it is possible that no
recommendation will be produced or that the PDP will take years to
conclude),  the implementation activities will continue to be pursued in
parallel with the GNSO’s PDP activities.     <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Margie Milam<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Berlin Sans FB","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>_____________<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Berlin Sans FB","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Margie Milam<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Berlin Sans FB","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Senior Policy Counselor<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Berlin Sans FB","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>ICANN<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Berlin Sans FB","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>______________<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> owner-council@gnso.icann.org
[mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Stéphane Van Gelder<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 17, 2010 3:34 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Adrian Kinderis<br>
<b>Cc:</b> GNSO Council List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [council] Vertical Integration<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Isn't this what Staff told us in the issues
report, that the work Staff are doing on this for the DAG would continue
whether (I hesitate to use the term "despite") the Council initiated
a PDP or not?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>Stéphane<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Le 17 févr. 2010 à 05:33, Adrian Kinderis a
écrit :<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Further
to my previous email please see the following from the ICANN website (<a
href="http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-4-15feb10-en.htm">http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-4-15feb10-en.htm</a>);<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><i><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Vertical
Integration (aka Registry/Registrar Separation)</span></u></i><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Based
on debates on the subject held at the ICANN meetings in Seoul, discussion
during the consultation with certain community representatives held on 7
January 2010 in Washington D.C., and ongoing study,<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><span style='background:yellow'>ICANN
will propose for community comment a new registry-registrar separation model
for inclusion in the next draft of the gTLD agreement</span>. Additionally, the
Board and community members will be discussing the issue in Nairobi.</span></i><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>ICANN
are proposing what?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Huh?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>What
about the PDP?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I’m
still confused!<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Adrian Kinderis</span></b><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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