<html><head><base href="x-msg://898/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Caroline,<div><br></div><div>I have put your proposed amendment to the VI DT and am awaiting feedback from that group.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br></div><div>Stéphane<br>
<br><div><div>Le 5 mars 2010 à 15:52, Caroline Greer a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div class="Section1"><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><font size="3" color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Yes. Hopefully it is considered a friendly amendment [the replacement of *<b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">equal</span></b>* with *<b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">equivalent</span></b>*]. Stéphane (and Mary), what do you think?<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><font size="3" color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><font size="3" color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><font size="3" color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><font size="3" color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Caroline.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><font size="3" color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div><div style="border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0cm; padding-left: 0cm; "><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-weight: bold; ">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@verisign.com]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Sent:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>05 March 2010 13:11<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">To:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Stéphane Van Gelder; Caroline Greer<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Cc:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">council@gnso.icann.org</a><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Subject:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE: [council] Friendly amendment to VI Charter<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><font size="2" color="blue" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: blue; ">Caroline,</span></font><span><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><font size="2" color="blue" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: blue; ">Are you proposing this as an amendment before the motion is voted on?</span></font><span><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><font size="2" color="blue" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: blue; ">Chuck</span></font><span><o:p></o:p></span></div><blockquote style="border-top-style: none; border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: blue; border-left-width: 1.5pt; padding-top: 0cm; padding-right: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0cm; padding-left: 4pt; margin-left: 3.75pt; margin-top: 5pt; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: center; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center"></span></font></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-weight: bold; ">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b>Stéphane Van Gelder<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Sent:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, March 05, 2010 7:15 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">To:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Caroline Greer<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Cc:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">council@gnso.icann.org</a><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Subject:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [council] Friendly amendment to VI Charter</span></font><span><o:p></o:p></span></p><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">Caroline,<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">Thank you for your message. Please note that the DT recognised that the definitions were works in progress. However, within the time we had to produce a charter, it would have been impossible to refine the definitions. This is why the following footnote was included:<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">The working definitions included in this charter are subject to further development and refinement by Staff, but are included in the interests of time in order to allow the remainder of the charter to be finalized and approved by the GNSO Council.</span></font><span> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">It was the DT's expectation that the WG would continue to work on the definitions.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">Stéphane <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">Le 5 mars 2010 à 11:40, Caroline Greer a écrit :<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">Dear All,</span></font><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">The Registries Stakeholder Group [<span class="spelle">RySG</span>] would like to propose a friendly amendment to the Vertical Integration Charter circulated by Stéphane.</span></font><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">For purposes of accuracy and consistency, we believe that Objective #4 should be revised to read: “<i><span style="font-style: italic; ">To identify and clearly articulate the differences between the current restrictions and practices concerning registry-registrar separation and<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="background-image: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: yellow; background-position: initial initial; ">equivalent access</span>, on the one hand, and the options described in the most recent version of the DAG and supporting documents<a name="_ftnref1"></a><a href="#_ftn1" title="" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; "><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><sup><font face="Times New Roman">[1]</font></sup></span></span><span></span></a><span></span><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>and changes considered by staff, on the other hand.”</span></i></span></font><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">The words “equivalent access” in yellow would replace the words “equal access” that are in the current version of Objective #4. We understand that the Charter Group has recognized the difference between “equal access” and “equivalent access” in its deliberations and has adopted “equivalent access” in other parts of the Charter.</span></font><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">More generally, the<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="spelle">RySG</span><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>notes that the proposed working definitions in the Charter are neither accurate nor complete and, in certain cases, they represent policy statements. The RySG underscores the importance of developing standalone definitions for each element of vertical integration. However, these definitions should be developed by experts in competition and antitrust matters and derived from, where possible, language in ICANN contracts and ICANN documentation that uses the relevant terms. </span></font><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">Many thanks.</span></font><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">Kind regards,</span></font><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">Caroline.</span></font><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><br clear="all"></span></font><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><br clear="all"><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><hr size="1" width="33%" align="left"></span></font></div><div id="ftn1"><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><a name="_ftn1"></a><a href="#_ftnref1" title="" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; "><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><sup><font size="1" color="#5a5a5a" face="Verdana"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(90, 90, 90); ">[1]</span></font></sup></span></span><span></span></a><span></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><font size="1" color="#5a5a5a" face="Verdana"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(90, 90, 90); "> </span></font></span><font size="1" color="#5a5a5a" face="Verdana"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(90, 90, 90); ">The working group understands that the DAG is a fluid document. As a result, the working group will conduct its activities based upon the version of the document available.</span></font><font size="1" color="#5a5a5a" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(90, 90, 90); "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div></div></blockquote></div></div></span></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>