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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=813032722-23032010><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I don't see anything in the Board motion that suggests a
fast track. I also don't believe there is any intent to come up with
anything that would cause delays. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=813032722-23032010><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Chuck</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Adrian Kinderis
[mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com.au] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 23, 2010
4:52 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Olga Cavalli; HughesDeb@usa.redcross.org<BR><B>Cc:</B>
tim@godaddy.com; Gomes, Chuck; owner-council@gnso.icann.org;
rafik.dammak@gmail.com; tdavis2@speakeasy.net; stephane.vangelder@indom.com;
Bruce Tonkin; council@gnso.icann.org;
Margie.Milam@icann.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [council] FW: Proposal to form a
Joint ALAC - GNSO WG "to develop a sustainable approach to providing support
to applicants requiring assistance in applying for and operating new gTLDs" in
response to the ICANN Board Resolution 20 at the Nairobi<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">My
reading of Tim’s email is that non-profit gTLD’s et al are already catered for
in the new gTLD Process as it stands and that there should be no need, at this
late stage, to provide a carve out or fast track especially for those
groups.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I
think we all understand the importance and relevance of humanitarian efforts.
That is why they are catered for within the DAG as it
stands.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I
agree with Tim, if my reading is correct, that delays caused by this late
consideration are not helpful nor desirable. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Finally
I wouldn’t want this motion to centre on ‘non-profits’ alone. There are many
non-profits that would scoff at only having to pay $185k fee to apply (it may
help them keep their ability to not declare a profit after all</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings">J</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Tim,
sorry if I misrepresented your point.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Adrian
Kinderis</SPAN></B><SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Olga Cavalli<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, 24 March 2010 7:25
AM<BR><B>To:</B> HughesDeb@usa.redcross.org<BR><B>Cc:</B> tim@godaddy.com;
cgomes@verisign.com; owner-council@gnso.icann.org; rafik.dammak@gmail.com;
tdavis2@speakeasy.net; stephane.vangelder@indom.com; Bruce Tonkin;
council@gnso.icann.org; Margie.Milam@icann.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[council] FW: Proposal to form a Joint ALAC - GNSO WG "to develop a
sustainable approach to providing support to applicants requiring assistance
in applying for and operating new gTLDs" in response to the ICANN Board
Resolution 20 at the Nairobi<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt">Hi,<BR>I support Debbie´s
comments.<BR>regards<BR>Olga<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>2010/3/23 <<A
href="mailto:HughesDeb@usa.redcross.org">HughesDeb@usa.redcross.org</A>><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Tim,</SPAN><SPAN
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> </SPAN><SPAN
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I am
sorry to hear that you think discussion of a processes related to non-profit
gTLDs is not “urgent.” I certainly understand the concern shared by many
related to ICANN staff and Councilors limited resources and timing;
however, I think we do ICANN a disservice by discrediting the importance
non-commercial use new gTLDs and minimizing the voice of certain stakeholders
based on the lack of commercialization of new gTLDs. I would hope many
may come to understand that there are “urgent” and important non-commercial
uses for new gTLDs. For example, humanitarian, educational and philanthropic
activity is very meaningful to communities worldwide. </SPAN><SPAN
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> </SPAN><SPAN
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I hope
there is a way to get this process right without delay. Delay helps no
one. However, dismissing groups as suggested below for the sake of speed
is very disconcerting.</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <A
href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org"
target=_blank>owner-council@gnso.icann.org</A> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org"
target=_blank>owner-council@gnso.icann.org</A>] <B>On Behalf Of </B><A
href="mailto:tim@godaddy.com"
target=_blank>tim@godaddy.com</A><BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 23, 2010
10:57 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Gomes, Chuck; <A
href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org"
target=_blank>owner-council@gnso.icann.org</A>; Rafik Dammak<BR><B>Cc:</B>
Terry L Davis, P.E.; Stéphane Van Gelder; Bruce Tonkin; GNSO Council; Margie
Milam<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [council] FW: Proposal to form a Joint ALAC -
GNSO WG "to develop a sustainable approach to providing support to applicants
requiring assistance in applying for and operating new gTLDs" in response to
the ICANN Board Resolution 20 at the Nairobi</SPAN><SPAN
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
lang=EN-US>Does this need to be in place for the first round? I would find it
hard to support assistance for any applicant wanting to apply for a
commercially viable gTLD for profit. So if this would apply mainly to
non-profit community types it seems it isn't urgent.<BR><BR>I'd hate to have
another fasttrack process going where we don't have time to really work out
the best solution.<BR><BR>Tim<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
lang=EN-US>From: </SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-US>"Gomes, Chuck" <<A
href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target=_blank>cgomes@verisign.com</A>>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
lang=EN-US>Date: </SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-US>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 10:41:55
-0400<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
lang=EN-US>To: </SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-US>Rafik Dammak<<A
href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com"
target=_blank>rafik.dammak@gmail.com</A>><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
lang=EN-US>Cc: </SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-US>Terry L Davis, P.E.<<A
href="mailto:tdavis2@speakeasy.net"
target=_blank>tdavis2@speakeasy.net</A>>; <<A
href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org"
target=_blank>owner-council@gnso.icann.org</A>>; Stéphane Van Gelder<<A
href="mailto:stephane.vangelder@indom.com"
target=_blank>stephane.vangelder@indom.com</A>>; Bruce Tonkin<<A
href="mailto:Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au"
target=_blank>Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au</A>>; GNSO Council<<A
href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org"
target=_blank>council@gnso.icann.org</A>>; Margie Milam<<A
href="mailto:Margie.Milam@icann.org"
target=_blank>Margie.Milam@icann.org</A>><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
lang=EN-US>Subject: </SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-US>RE: [council] FW: Proposal to
form a Joint ALAC - GNSO WG "to develop a sustainable approach to providing
support to applicants requiring assistance in applying for and operating new
gTLDs" in response to the ICANN Board Resolution 20 at the
Nairobi<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">A
motion is being prepared for GNSO Council action on 1 April. The ALAC
also has this on their agenda today. The motion will likely task the WG
with first developing a charter that would need to be approved by the
participating SO's and AC's.</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
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- would you like to make the motion? Margie is preparing a draft motion;
once I have it, I would be happy to send it to you so you can make it.
The deadline for motions is tomorrow, 24 March.</SPAN><SPAN
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lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
Rafik Dammak [mailto:<A href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com"
target=_blank>rafik.dammak@gmail.com</A>] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 22,
2010 8:57 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Gomes, Chuck<BR><B>Cc:</B> Terry L Davis, P.E.;
<A href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org"
target=_blank>owner-council@gnso.icann.org</A>; Stéphane Van Gelder; Bruce
Tonkin; GNSO Council<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [council] FW: Proposal to form a
Joint ALAC - GNSO WG "to develop a sustainable approach to providing support
to applicants requiring assistance in applying for and operating new gTLDs"
in response to the ICANN Board Resolution 20 at the Nairobi</SPAN><SPAN
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lang=EN-US>yes definitely. what is the process for starting this joint-wg?
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lang=EN-US>2010/3/23 Gomes, Chuck <<A href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com"
target=_blank>cgomes@verisign.com</A>><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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the joint WG will be able to come up with some good ideas.</SPAN><SPAN
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Rafik Dammak [mailto:<A href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com"
target=_blank>rafik.dammak@gmail.com</A>] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March
22, 2010 12:52 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Gomes, Chuck<BR><B>Cc:</B> Terry L Davis,
P.E.; <A href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org"
target=_blank>owner-council@gnso.icann.org</A>; Stéphane Van Gelder; Bruce
Tonkin; GNSO Council </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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Re: [council] FW: Proposal to form a Joint ALAC - GNSO WG "to develop a
sustainable approach to providing support to applicants requiring
assistance in applying for and operating new gTLDs" in response to the
ICANN Board Resolution 20 at the Nairobi</SPAN><SPAN
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lang=EN-US><BR>I am concerned that the only explanation that we can hear
is "staff said" or "staff stated" or "staff explained" or "staff decided".
I understand for the need for support form the staff but for GNSO council,
there are still rooms to have its own vision and making decision
independently from staff reports? <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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lang=EN-US>@Alan yes the feeling is that ICANN is not listening to people
from developing countries and get more worse when ICANN "would like" ccTLD
from African region to participate with 3% (Idea suggested by Rod) or also
to hear the "technical support" which will be provided by the proposed
DNS-CERT (it is really offending and just overlapping with tasks done by
regional organizations)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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lang=EN-US>2010/3/21 Gomes, Chuck <<A href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com"
target=_blank>cgomes@verisign.com</A>><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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lang=EN-US>I don't think anyone believes that the costs to run every
registry is the same. Some have higher security needs than others.
Some need a more global infrastructure than others. Some have
lower costs in their region and in other places in the world. All
have different business plans.<BR><BR>But the basic cost of evaluating an
application, excluding any dispute processes that may ensue, are
essentially the same for all applicants except in cases where the same
applicant applies for multiple TLDs. The way Staff has decided to
impose application fees as of now, they have already built in
subsidization of fees for single TLD applicants by those applying for
multiple TLDs.<BR><SPAN
style="COLOR: #888888"><BR>Chuck</SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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lang=EN-US><BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> From: <A
href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org"
target=_blank>owner-council@gnso.icann.org</A><BR>> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org"
target=_blank>owner-council@gnso.icann.org</A>] On Behalf
Of<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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lang=EN-US>> <A href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com"
target=_blank>rafik.dammak@gmail.com</A><BR>> Sent: Saturday, March 20,
2010 9:40 PM<BR>> To: Terry L Davis, P.E.; <A
href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org"
target=_blank>owner-council@gnso.icann.org</A>;<BR>> 'Stéphane Van
Gelder'; 'Bruce Tonkin'<BR>> Cc: 'GNSO Council '<BR>> Subject: Re:
[council] FW: Proposal to form a Joint ALAC -<BR>> GNSO WG "to develop
a sustainable approach to providing<BR>> support to applicants
requiring assistance in applying for<BR>> and operating new gTLDs" in
response to the ICANN Board<BR>> Resolution 20 at the Nairobi
Meeti<BR>><BR>><BR>> Hello All,<BR>><BR>> In my point of
view, it sounds that you are wrongly using the<BR>> principle of
equality in this case which looks more like<BR>> discrimination against
applicants for developing regions. Why<BR>> you want a registry from
developing regions to have the same<BR>> budget of registry in
developed country?there are a lot of<BR>> way to cut
costs.<BR>><BR>> Yes, a registry in developing region can be run
with respect<BR>> to all ICANN requirements in cheaper way than in
developed country.<BR>> That is why I would like if possible that Bruce
point to<BR>> documents (if they exist) explaining in details the why
of<BR>> such requested costs for running a regisrty from ICANN<BR>>
perspective?but also for the application fees as the<BR>> explanation
of cost recovery remains vague and abstract.<BR>><BR>> Thank
you,<BR>><BR>> Regards<BR>><BR>> Rafik<BR>> BlackBerry from
DOCOMO<BR>><BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> From: "Terry L
Davis, P.E." <<A href="mailto:tdavis2@speakeasy.net"
target=_blank>tdavis2@speakeasy.net</A>><BR>> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010
17:32:53<BR>> To: 'St phane Van Gelder'<<A
href="mailto:stephane.vangelder@indom.com"
target=_blank>stephane.vangelder@indom.com</A>>;<BR>> 'Bruce
Tonkin'<<A href="mailto:Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au"
target=_blank>Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au</A>><BR>> Cc: 'GNSO
Council '<<A href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org"
target=_blank>council@gnso.icann.org</A>><BR>> Subject: RE:
[council] FW: Proposal to form a Joint ALAC -<BR>> GNSO WG "to develop
a sustainable approach to providing<BR>> support to applicants
requiring assistance in applying for<BR>> and operating new gTLDs" in
response to the ICANN Board<BR>> Resolution 20 at the Nairobi
Meeti<BR>><BR>><BR>> Stephane<BR>><BR>> My feelings
also.<BR>><BR>> To me, we would have to treat all "dis-advantaged
enties"<BR>> alike regardless<BR>> of their nationality as there
will be many entities in every<BR>> country for<BR>> which the TLD
cost is too high. My first question to any of<BR>> them though<BR>>
would be to ask if the entry cost is too high, do you<BR>> actually
have the<BR>> resources then to run a TLD?<BR>><BR>> Feels more
like a "tar pit" than a can of worms.<BR>><BR>> Take care<BR>>
Terry<BR>><BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> From: <A
href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org"
target=_blank>owner-council@gnso.icann.org</A><BR>> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org"
target=_blank>owner-council@gnso.icann.org</A>] On<BR>> Behalf Of St
phane Van Gelder<BR>> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 4:57 AM<BR>>
To: Bruce Tonkin<BR>> Cc: GNSO Council<BR>> Subject: Re: [council]
FW: Proposal to form a Joint ALAC - GNSO WG "to<BR>> develop a
sustainable approach to providing support to<BR>> applicants
requiring<BR>> assistance in applying for and operating new gTLDs"
in<BR>> response to the ICANN<BR>> Board Resolution 20 at the
Nairobi Meeti<BR>><BR>><BR>> I had understood the motion to be
referencing financial support.<BR>><BR>> But to me it really doesn't
look like much of a solution. If<BR>> the aim is to<BR>> help
applicants with lesser means, then this motion is so<BR>> vague as to
be<BR>> totally moot. If the Board really has a desire to explore
the<BR>> possibility of<BR>> catering to applicants with different
financial profiles, I<BR>> think we then<BR>> spill into the notion
of categories of applicants that the<BR>> GAC has been<BR>> pushing
for and we then open up several new cans of worms<BR>> that can only
lead<BR>> to more delays.<BR>><BR>> Just my personal five
cents.<BR>><BR>> St phane<BR>><BR>> Le 20 mars 2010
06:41, Bruce Tonkin a crit :<BR>><BR>> ><BR>> > Hello
Chuck,<BR>> ><BR>> >><BR>> >> This is interesting
Bruce. I had no idea that this motion<BR>> was talking<BR>>
>> about financial support;<BR>> ><BR>> > Well the focus
of much of the public comment has been for<BR>> the Board to<BR>>
> reduce the application fees for developing countries.<BR>>
><BR>> > The Board instead is saying that there are other ways of
solving the<BR>> > issue of participation - and left it open for the
community to put<BR>> > forward some proposals. It was my
input (which I also<BR>> stated during<BR>> > the Board meeting)
- that it is not just financial support that may<BR>> > help, but
also support in terms of resources. I gave the<BR>> example
that<BR>> > in the past, many smaller ccTLDS used secondary
nameservers<BR>> operated by<BR>> > larger ccTLDS in developed
countries at no cost.<BR>> ><BR>> > Regards,<BR>> >
Bruce Tonkin<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>>
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