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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>My reading of Tim’s email is that non-profit gTLD’s et al are
already catered for in the new gTLD Process as it stands and that there should be
no need, at this late stage, to provide a carve out or fast track especially for
those groups.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I think we all understand the importance and relevance of
humanitarian efforts. That is why they are catered for within the DAG as it
stands.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I agree with Tim, if my reading is correct, that delays caused
by this late consideration are not helpful nor desirable. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Finally I wouldn’t want this motion to centre on ‘non-profits’
alone. There are many non-profits that would scoff at only having to pay $185k
fee to apply (it may help them keep their ability to not declare a profit after
all</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Tim, sorry if I misrepresented your point.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Adrian Kinderis</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br>
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</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> owner-council@gnso.icann.org
[mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Olga Cavalli<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 24 March 2010 7:25 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> HughesDeb@usa.redcross.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> tim@godaddy.com; cgomes@verisign.com; owner-council@gnso.icann.org;
rafik.dammak@gmail.com; tdavis2@speakeasy.net; stephane.vangelder@indom.com;
Bruce Tonkin; council@gnso.icann.org; Margie.Milam@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [council] FW: Proposal to form a Joint ALAC - GNSO WG
"to develop a sustainable approach to providing support to applicants
requiring assistance in applying for and operating new gTLDs" in response
to the ICANN Board Resolution 20 at the Nairobi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Hi,<br>
I support Debbie´s comments.<br>
regards<br>
Olga<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>2010/3/23 <<a href="mailto:HughesDeb@usa.redcross.org">HughesDeb@usa.redcross.org</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Tim,</span><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'> </span><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>I
am sorry to hear that you think discussion of a processes related to non-profit
gTLDs is not “urgent.” I certainly understand the concern shared by many
related to ICANN staff and Councilors limited resources and timing;
however, I think we do ICANN a disservice by discrediting the importance
non-commercial use new gTLDs and minimizing the voice of certain stakeholders
based on the lack of commercialization of new gTLDs. I would hope many
may come to understand that there are “urgent” and important non-commercial
uses for new gTLDs. For example, humanitarian, educational and philanthropic
activity is very meaningful to communities worldwide. </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'> </span><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>I
hope there is a way to get this process right without delay. Delay helps
no one. However, dismissing groups as suggested below for the sake of
speed is very disconcerting.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'> </span><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Debbie</span><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'> </span><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:tim@godaddy.com" target="_blank">tim@godaddy.com</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 23, 2010 10:57 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gomes, Chuck; <a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org"
target="_blank">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>; Rafik Dammak<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Terry L Davis, P.E.; Stéphane Van Gelder; Bruce Tonkin; GNSO
Council; Margie Milam<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [council] FW: Proposal to form a Joint ALAC - GNSO WG
"to develop a sustainable approach to providing support to applicants
requiring assistance in applying for and operating new gTLDs" in response
to the ICANN Board Resolution 20 at the Nairobi</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US>Does this need to be in place for the first round? I would find it
hard to support assistance for any applicant wanting to apply for a
commercially viable gTLD for profit. So if this would apply mainly to
non-profit community types it seems it isn't urgent.<br>
<br>
I'd hate to have another fasttrack process going where we don't have time to really
work out the best solution.<br>
<br>
Tim<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
lang=EN-US>From: </span></b><span lang=EN-US>"Gomes, Chuck" <<a
href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a>> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
lang=EN-US>Date: </span></b><span lang=EN-US>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 10:41:55 -0400<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
lang=EN-US>To: </span></b><span lang=EN-US>Rafik Dammak<<a
href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
lang=EN-US>Cc: </span></b><span lang=EN-US>Terry L Davis, P.E.<<a
href="mailto:tdavis2@speakeasy.net" target="_blank">tdavis2@speakeasy.net</a>>;
<<a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>>;
Stéphane Van Gelder<<a href="mailto:stephane.vangelder@indom.com"
target="_blank">stephane.vangelder@indom.com</a>>; Bruce Tonkin<<a
href="mailto:Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au" target="_blank">Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au</a>>;
GNSO Council<<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a>>;
Margie Milam<<a href="mailto:Margie.Milam@icann.org" target="_blank">Margie.Milam@icann.org</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
lang=EN-US>Subject: </span></b><span lang=EN-US>RE: [council] FW: Proposal to
form a Joint ALAC - GNSO WG "to develop a sustainable approach to
providing support to applicants requiring assistance in applying for and
operating new gTLDs" in response to the ICANN Board Resolution 20 at the
Nairobi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>A
motion is being prepared for GNSO Council action on 1 April. The ALAC
also has this on their agenda today. The motion will likely task the WG
with first developing a charter that would need to be approved by the
participating SO's and AC's.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Rafik
- would you like to make the motion? Margie is preparing a draft motion;
once I have it, I would be happy to send it to you so you can make it.
The deadline for motions is tomorrow, 24 March.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Chuck</span><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid windowtext 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;
margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt;
border-color:-moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color blue'>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Rafik
Dammak [mailto:<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 22, 2010 8:57 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gomes, Chuck<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Terry L Davis, P.E.; <a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org"
target="_blank">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>; Stéphane Van Gelder; Bruce
Tonkin; GNSO Council<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [council] FW: Proposal to form a Joint ALAC - GNSO WG
"to develop a sustainable approach to providing support to applicants
requiring assistance in applying for and operating new gTLDs" in response
to the ICANN Board Resolution 20 at the Nairobi</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US>yes definitely. what is the process for starting this joint-wg? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span
lang=EN-US>Rafik<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Rafik
Dammak [mailto:<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 22, 2010 12:52 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gomes, Chuck<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Terry L Davis, P.E.; <a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org"
target="_blank">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>; Stéphane Van Gelder; Bruce
Tonkin; GNSO Council </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [council] FW: Proposal to form a Joint ALAC - GNSO WG
"to develop a sustainable approach to providing support to applicants
requiring assistance in applying for and operating new gTLDs" in response
to the ICANN Board Resolution 20 at the Nairobi</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang=EN-US>Hi Chuck, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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I am concerned that the only explanation that we can hear is "staff
said" or "staff stated" or "staff explained" or
"staff decided". I understand for the need for support form the staff
but for GNSO council, there are still rooms to have its own vision and making
decision independently from staff reports? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang=EN-US>@Alan yes the feeling is that ICANN is not listening to people from
developing countries and get more worse when ICANN "would like" ccTLD
from African region to participate with 3% (Idea suggested by Rod) or also to
hear the "technical support" which will be provided by the proposed
DNS-CERT (it is really offending and just overlapping with tasks done by
regional organizations)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang=EN-US>2010/3/21 Gomes, Chuck <<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com"
target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang=EN-US>I don't think anyone believes that the costs to run every registry
is the same. Some have higher security needs than others. Some need
a more global infrastructure than others. Some have lower costs in their
region and in other places in the world. All have different business
plans.<br>
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But the basic cost of evaluating an application, excluding any dispute
processes that may ensue, are essentially the same for all applicants except in
cases where the same applicant applies for multiple TLDs. The way Staff
has decided to impose application fees as of now, they have already built in
subsidization of fees for single TLD applicants by those applying for multiple
TLDs.<br>
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Chuck</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a><br>
> [mailto:<a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>]
On Behalf Of<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang=EN-US>> <a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a><br>
> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 9:40 PM<br>
> To: Terry L Davis, P.E.; <a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org"
target="_blank">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>;<br>
> 'Stéphane Van Gelder'; 'Bruce Tonkin'<br>
> Cc: 'GNSO Council '<br>
> Subject: Re: [council] FW: Proposal to form a Joint ALAC -<br>
> GNSO WG "to develop a sustainable approach to providing<br>
> support to applicants requiring assistance in applying for<br>
> and operating new gTLDs" in response to the ICANN Board<br>
> Resolution 20 at the Nairobi Meeti<br>
><br>
><br>
> Hello All,<br>
><br>
> In my point of view, it sounds that you are wrongly using the<br>
> principle of equality in this case which looks more like<br>
> discrimination against applicants for developing regions. Why<br>
> you want a registry from developing regions to have the same<br>
> budget of registry in developed country?there are a lot of<br>
> way to cut costs.<br>
><br>
> Yes, a registry in developing region can be run with respect<br>
> to all ICANN requirements in cheaper way than in developed country.<br>
> That is why I would like if possible that Bruce point to<br>
> documents (if they exist) explaining in details the why of<br>
> such requested costs for running a regisrty from ICANN<br>
> perspective?but also for the application fees as the<br>
> explanation of cost recovery remains vague and abstract.<br>
><br>
> Thank you,<br>
><br>
> Regards<br>
><br>
> Rafik<br>
> BlackBerry from DOCOMO<br>
><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: "Terry L Davis, P.E." <<a
href="mailto:tdavis2@speakeasy.net" target="_blank">tdavis2@speakeasy.net</a>><br>
> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:32:53<br>
> To: 'St phane Van Gelder'<<a href="mailto:stephane.vangelder@indom.com"
target="_blank">stephane.vangelder@indom.com</a>>;<br>
> 'Bruce Tonkin'<<a href="mailto:Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au"
target="_blank">Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au</a>><br>
> Cc: 'GNSO Council '<<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org"
target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br>
> Subject: RE: [council] FW: Proposal to form a Joint ALAC -<br>
> GNSO WG "to develop a sustainable approach to providing<br>
> support to applicants requiring assistance in applying for<br>
> and operating new gTLDs" in response to the ICANN Board<br>
> Resolution 20 at the Nairobi Meeti<br>
><br>
><br>
> Stephane<br>
><br>
> My feelings also.<br>
><br>
> To me, we would have to treat all "dis-advantaged enties"<br>
> alike regardless<br>
> of their nationality as there will be many entities in every<br>
> country for<br>
> which the TLD cost is too high. My first question to any of<br>
> them though<br>
> would be to ask if the entry cost is too high, do you<br>
> actually have the<br>
> resources then to run a TLD?<br>
><br>
> Feels more like a "tar pit" than a can of worms.<br>
><br>
> Take care<br>
> Terry<br>
><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a><br>
> [mailto:<a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>]
On<br>
> Behalf Of St phane Van Gelder<br>
> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 4:57 AM<br>
> To: Bruce Tonkin<br>
> Cc: GNSO Council<br>
> Subject: Re: [council] FW: Proposal to form a Joint ALAC - GNSO WG
"to<br>
> develop a sustainable approach to providing support to<br>
> applicants requiring<br>
> assistance in applying for and operating new gTLDs" in<br>
> response to the ICANN<br>
> Board Resolution 20 at the Nairobi Meeti<br>
><br>
><br>
> I had understood the motion to be referencing financial support.<br>
><br>
> But to me it really doesn't look like much of a solution. If<br>
> the aim is to<br>
> help applicants with lesser means, then this motion is so<br>
> vague as to be<br>
> totally moot. If the Board really has a desire to explore the<br>
> possibility of<br>
> catering to applicants with different financial profiles, I<br>
> think we then<br>
> spill into the notion of categories of applicants that the<br>
> GAC has been<br>
> pushing for and we then open up several new cans of worms<br>
> that can only lead<br>
> to more delays.<br>
><br>
> Just my personal five cents.<br>
><br>
> St phane<br>
><br>
> Le 20 mars 2010 06:41, Bruce Tonkin a crit :<br>
><br>
> ><br>
> > Hello Chuck,<br>
> ><br>
> >><br>
> >> This is interesting Bruce. I had no idea that this motion<br>
> was talking<br>
> >> about financial support;<br>
> ><br>
> > Well the focus of much of the public comment has been for<br>
> the Board to<br>
> > reduce the application fees for developing countries.<br>
> ><br>
> > The Board instead is saying that there are other ways of solving the<br>
> > issue of participation - and left it open for the community to put<br>
> > forward some proposals. It was my input (which I also<br>
> stated during<br>
> > the Board meeting) - that it is not just financial support that may<br>
> > help, but also support in terms of resources. I gave the<br>
> example that<br>
> > in the past, many smaller ccTLDS used secondary nameservers<br>
> operated by<br>
> > larger ccTLDS in developed countries at no cost.<br>
> ><br>
> > Regards,<br>
> > Bruce Tonkin<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
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