Hi,<br>I support the rewording proposed by Rafik.<br>Regards<br>Olga<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/3/31 Rafik Dammak <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir="ltr">Hello,<br><br>After discussion with NCSG, we decided to accept the amendment and would like to reword it:<div>
"keeping in mind the GNSO Implementation guideline to recover the cost of new gTLD applications and on-going services to new gTLDs"<br>
<div> </div><div><div>Regards</div><div><br></div><div>Rafik</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/3/31 Stéphane Van Gelder <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stephane.vangelder@indom.com" target="_blank">stephane.vangelder@indom.com</a>></span><div>
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Rafik, Olga,<br>
<br>
I think it would clearly be useful for you to provide some explanation as to why you don't consider Tim's amendment as friendly.<br>
<br>
There may be very good reasons for that, but by not explaining them, it simply raises suspicions around this motion.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Stéphane<br>
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Le 31 mars 2010 à 15:47, Tim Ruiz a écrit :<br>
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> That's just all the more reason to accept my amendment as friendly. If<br>
> it is not considered friendly then it's clear to me that Rafik and Olga<br>
> have something different in mind. Regardless of the Board motion<br>
> mentioning it, this motion needs to be clear that it has picked up on<br>
> that fact and that the WG will proceed accordingly. If that is not<br>
> clear, it is unlikely the RrSG will support it.<br>
><br>
> Tim<br>
><br>
> -------- Original Message --------<br>
> Subject: RE: [council] MOTION TO CREATE JOINT SO/AC WORKING GROUP ON<br>
> NEW GTLD APPLICANT SUPPORT<br>
> From: Alan Greenberg <<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>><br>
> Date: Tue, March 30, 2010 1:48 pm<br>
> To: "GNSO Council " <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br>
><br>
><br>
> Tim, the Boards motion, which is directly referenced in the proposed<br>
> motion includes "Whereas, ICANN has a requirement to recover the<br>
> costs of new gTLD applications and on-going services to new gTLDs".<br>
> Why is it necessary to re-iterate it again?<br>
><br>
> Alan<br>
><br>
> At 30/03/2010 12:58 PM, Tim Ruiz wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Rafik,<br>
>><br>
>> Then I'm confused because you said:<br>
>><br>
>> "I think that there are misunderstandings about the working group and<br>
>> its relation with the new gTLD process too.<br>
>> - the working group should work on finding approaches for applicants<br>
>> requiring assistance. it means that those applicants have anyway to<br>
>> follow the same requirements like any other applicants. the assistance<br>
>> may be technical (as suggested by Andrei) or/and financial (to find<br>
>> structure/organizations to fund those projects, it is not ICANN which<br>
>> will fund!)."<br>
>><br>
>> All I am asking is that the motion is clarified to make your point - "it<br>
>> is not ICANN which will fund!" Would you please propose such an<br>
>> amendment that is acceptable? The RrSG would like to be able to support<br>
>> the motion.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Thanks,<br>
>> Tim<br>
>><br>
>> -------- Original Message --------<br>
>> Subject: Re: [council] MOTION TO CREATE JOINT SO/AC WORKING GROUP ON<br>
>> NEW GTLD APPLICANT SUPPORT<br>
>> From: Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> Date: Tue, March 30, 2010 11:33 am<br>
>> To: "Gomes, Chuck" <<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a>><br>
>> Cc: Tim Ruiz <<a href="mailto:tim@godaddy.com" target="_blank">tim@godaddy.com</a>>, GNSO Council <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br>
>><br>
>> Hello,<br>
>><br>
>> unfortunately, I cannot see it as friendly amendment.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Regards<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Rafik<br>
>><br>
>> 2010/3/30 Gomes, Chuck <<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a>><br>
>><br>
>> Rafik/Olga,<br>
>><br>
>> Do you accept this as a friendly amendment?<br>
>><br>
>> Chuck<br>
>><br>
>>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>>> From: <a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>> [mailto:<a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>] On Behalf Of Tim Ruiz<br>
>>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 4:20 PM<br>
>>> To: GNSO Council<br>
>>> Subject: RE: [council] MOTION TO CREATE JOINT SO/AC WORKING<br>
>>> GROUP ON NEW GTLD APPLICANT SUPPORT<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Since it seems to be agreed that what is intended is to look<br>
>>> for funding opportunities outside of ICANN's own budget to<br>
>>> possibly resolve this concern, I would like to make that<br>
>>> evident in the motion and propose this friendly amendment:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Add the following to the first Resolve:<br>
>>><br>
>>> keeping in mind ICANN's requirement to recover the costs of<br>
>>> new gTLD applications and on-going services to new gTLDs<br>
>>><br>
>>> So the first Resolve would read:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Resolved, that the GNSO Council supports the formation of a<br>
>>> joint SO/AC working group to respond to the Board's request<br>
>>> by developing a sustainable approach to providing support to<br>
>>> new gTLD applicants requiring assistance in applying for and<br>
>>> operating new gTLDS, keeping in mind ICANN's requirement to<br>
>>> recover the costs of new gTLD applications and on-going<br>
>>> services to new gTLDs;<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Tim<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> -------- Original Message --------<br>
>>> Subject: [council] MOTION TO CREATE JOINT SO/AC WORKING GROUP<br>
>>> ON NEW GTLD APPLICANT SUPPORT<br>
>>> From: Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> Date: Wed, March 24, 2010 9:43 am<br>
>>> To: "Gomes, Chuck" <<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a>>, Council GNSO<br>
>>> <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Hello,<br>
>>><br>
>>> I want to submit motion to approve joint SO/AC council<br>
>>> working group on new gTLD applicant support the motion<br>
>>> document is attached.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Regards<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Rafik<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
><br>
><br>
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