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color:#1F497D'>Interesting... thanks Bill.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I think you all (y’all) are missing the point about being
elected representatives. The community input and participation is sufficiently covered
– and if not, I have suggested mechanisms where their input is heard (via
Councillors and or through the Chair). I do not consider this Draconian.
Draconian would be to exclude them altogether or ask them for their input prior
to the meeting. This is being organised and efficient. Don’t forget,
everyone gets a say.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>In the same vain why aren’t our GNSO calls open for the
public?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I also think it is important to raise the profile of our
Councilors (and the prestige for that matter). Folks should be made to feel comfortable
to use them to convey a point of view. Also, Councilors work very hard, it could
be considered a position of value to have been elected to sit at the table and
to have the ability to converse directly with Staff and the Board. You never
know, it may entice more folks to want to put themselves forward as Councilors
if they can see an immediate benefit. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I think talking to repeat offenders “offline” is a
useless exercise and potentially creates a difficult and embarrassing situation.
Why should we have to play police officer? I’d like to avoid that tension
completely.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>With reference to my offer for drinks... we did it, but I had
too many members of the public claiming their right for a drink and ran out of
money ;)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>By the way, I am against any invitation or information with
the words “inter alia” included. Makes me feel that only the smart
people are invited... <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Adrian Kinderis</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> William Drake
[mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 2 June 2010 4:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Adrian Kinderis<br>
<b>Cc:</b> council@gnso.icann.org Council<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [council] Meeting Protocol for Brussels and beyond...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Hi Adrian,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Jun 2, 2010, at 2:24 AM, Adrian Kinderis wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I would like to suggest that there be no questions from the
floor during these sessions.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>When we last had this conversation didn't we decide
against <span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>draconian measures that would preclude
community participation (and were hence poorly received by some) and for some
intermediate steps like only Councilors at the table, chair gives preference to
Councilor comments and right sizes the time for others, etc? If people
think this has not worked sufficiently, wouldn't it be possible to simply have
an offline conversation with the most relevant parties saying please respect
the following ground rules, and to reiterate these at the outset of meetings?</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Jun 2, 2010, at 2:51 AM, Adrian Kinderis wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I'll shout an extra round at the bar on Saturday night to
make up for it :)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Hmm...didn't I hear something like this a few meetings ago,
didn't materialize... :-)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>BTW, on the matter of after hour amusement, perhaps I'll
pass along something I pointed out to NCSG, might be of interest to some here:<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 1:33 PM, William Drake<br>
<<a href="mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch">william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Hi<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Just an FYI for people who will be attending ICANN Brussels,
as with Paris two summers ago, this meeting overlaps with the annual Fete de la
Musique held across France, Belgium, Switzerland, etc. Just had a look at
the program <a
href="http://2010.fetedelamusique.be/recherches?tid=&tid_1=All&city=Bruxelles">http://2010.fetedelamusique.be/recherches?tid=&tid_1=All&city=Bruxelles</a> and
inter alia Saturday night 19th Toots and the Maytals is playing in the park
near the conference site.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Bill<o:p></o:p></p>
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