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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks for your response Adrian. I also benefited from the
discussion and appreciate the fact that you initiated it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I expect all of you to keep me on target in Brussels.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Chuck<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Adrian Kinderis
[mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com.au] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 03, 2010 6:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gomes, Chuck; KnobenW@telekom.de; stephane.vangelder@indom.com;
william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch<br>
<b>Cc:</b> council@gnso.icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [council] Meeting Protocol for Brussels and beyond...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Chuck et al,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Firstly I appreciate you taking the time to put together such
well thought out responses.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I should say that the opinions expressed in my emails were my
own – however, they were anecdotally on behalf of frustrated colleagues that I
have either spoken to in the audience or indeed Councilors at the end of our
sessions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>That said, I believe I have been swayed. Direct audience
participation can work, so long as we have the benefit of a strong Chair and
support from vice-Chairs and a protocol for answering questions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Please note I was never suggesting to limit their voice, only to
have it guided through a Councilor as a means for efficiency and structure. I
understand the importance of community input. I understand the value of varied
opinions and perspectives. This must be supported.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I have also come to realize the Council is more than just
representative Councilors, it is members of Working Groups and Committees also.
Limiting their ability to directly contribute would be detrimental.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>We, as Councilors, need access to staff. We need to understand
what they are thinking and also to support and assist them. They need access to
us to support the policy development and review process that is a function of
the Council. So long as we have this in a manner that allows us to be
productive, I will be satisfied.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks again for the well structured and thought out
perspectives. I am glad the discussion was had. I am better for it. I trust our
workshops will be too.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Adrian
Kinderis</span></b><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Gomes, Chuck
[mailto:cgomes@verisign.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 04, 2010 1:03 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Adrian Kinderis; KnobenW@telekom.de; stephane.vangelder@indom.com;
william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch<br>
<b>Cc:</b> council@gnso.icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [council] Meeting Protocol for Brussels and beyond...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Adrian,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I have intentionally been delaying commenting on this subject
for at least two reasons: 1) I first wanted to make sure I could speak on
behalf of the RySG membership that I represent and not just share personal
thoughts, so I raised the issue on the RySG list and have been watching the
discussion there; 2) I also wanted to watch the Council discussion for awhile
to get a sense of what various Councilors thought about this subject before I commented
in my role as Chair.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>There has been quite a bit of discussion on the RySG list and it
has been very consistent. RySG members are opposed to closing off the
meetings and not allowing observers to participate. At the same time they
recognize the need for good management of open sessions and support steps in
that regard such as Council seating arrangements, name tags, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>It might be helpful to look at some history regarding open
meetings. I think the new gTLD PDP serves as an important element of GNSO
history in this regard. Before I was even on the Council, it was decided
to use the Council as a Whole approach instead of forming a Task Force but to
do that in a way that allowed broader participation than just Councilors.
Bruce as Chair of the Council led the PDP effort and from beginning to end,
over a span of more than 1 ½ years, participants involved Councilors and others
who were willing to commit the time. We had a lot of in-person meetings
including long sessions on weekends in conjunction with ICANN International
meetings and, at all of those sessions, attendance and participation were open
to everyone who showed up. Moreover, even though we were tackling one of
the toughest tasks ever, we succeeded in producing supermajority recommendations.
The results were not perfect and we are still working on their implementation
today, but it really was a huge accomplishment. Bruce, and toward the end
when Bruce joined the Board, Avri, are to be commended for their excellent
leadership and all of the community participants, Councilors and
non-Councilors, are to be complimented as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I believe it was during the new gTLD PDP that the trend toward
open WG sessions was expanded to include nearly all GNSO meetings on the
weekend. And in my personal opinion as well as the view of the
RySG, that has worked very well. It has not been without challenges and
certainly can be improved, but it fits the bottom-up process that we are
supposed to follow very well. It also meets the Board recommendation that
the GNSO Council should not be a legislative body.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Another point that is important is this: From the time that
weekend working sessions were started until now, it was always made clear that
these were not official Council meetings and that no business would be directly
done. We always reserved business for the Open Council Meetings on
Wednesdays or for our regular teleconference meetings.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I believe that two people on the Council have supported Adrian’s
suggestion for making the weekend working sessions more closed: Adrian and
Mike. (If others have done so, I apologise and note that it is still
early for me and I have not read all my email today.) Another Board
recommendation is that the GNSO Council should improve its representativeness
of its stakeholders. In light of that, I would like to ask Adrian and
Mike and any others who have expressed views on this issue, regardless of the
views, to answer this question: Do the positions you have communicated
represent the views of your Stakeholder Groups or are they primarily your
personal views? Besides the representativeness concern, I ask this
question because over the years I have observed excellent contributions from
non-Councilors from every Stakeholder Group and Constituency including lots of
contributions from members of the RrSG and CBUC. I think it would have
been a loss if those had not been allowed in the process.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Finally, let me suggest a word of caution. Each of us as
Councilors has our own personal, business and/or professional interests with
regard to GNSO work, otherwise we probably would not volunteer so much
time. That is as it should be but I think we need to be careful that we
are not perceived to be using our Councilor role as a platform for promoting
those interests. I am not suggesting that anyone is, but I do believe
that in taking a stance of making the GNSO working sessions more closed, some
may perceive us that way and we may be seen as elevating ourselves above others
in the community who also have their own personal, business and professional
interests, just because we are Councilors.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I apologise for such a long message. Speaking in my role
as Chair, I recommend that we continue to not only allow open participation in
our weekend working sessions but that we encourage it but that we do so in a
way that is well managed and effective. And I commit myself as Chair to
provide the leadership needed to make that happen with help from all of
you. As first steps in that regard, I would like to ask Glen to prepare
2-sided name tags for all Councilors and participating Staff members for our
meetings in Brussels and I along with help from Glen, Stéphane and Olga will do
our best to make sure that there is room for all Councilors at tables where we
and other participants can readily see and converse with one another and
observers.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks to everyone for the excellent dialog on this topic.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Chuck<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <b>On Behalf
Of </b>Adrian Kinderis<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 03, 2010 7:58 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> KnobenW@telekom.de; stephane.vangelder@indom.com;
william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch<br>
<b>Cc:</b> council@gnso.icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [council] Meeting Protocol for Brussels and beyond...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Wolf,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>That must have worked well at a conference with 20% the usual
participation level and no new DAG to bang on about…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I think it will be very different in Brussels. Hence my original
email.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I would love to hear from our Chair and Vice chair on this (not
you Stephane!).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Adrian
Kinderis</span></b><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> KnobenW@telekom.de
[mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 03, 2010 9:45 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> stephane.vangelder@indom.com; william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Adrian Kinderis; council@gnso.icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> AW: [council] Meeting Protocol for Brussels and beyond...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Stéphane,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>I personally felt comfortable the way you were managing the weekend
sessions in Nairobi which means: councillors taking seats at the table and
speaking first to the various topics. Time for open discussion was still
available and seemed having been taken into schedule account. I would welcome
to keep it this way.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Regards</span>
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<span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Wolf-Ulrich</span><span
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owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <b>Im
Auftrag von </b>Stéphane Van Gelder<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 08:37<br>
<b>An:</b> William Drake<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Adrian Kinderis; council@gnso.icann.org Council<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [council] Meeting Protocol for Brussels and beyond...</span><span
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<p class=MsoNormal>Bill's summary is spot on as far as I can remember. In
Nairobi, Adrian had pointed out the need to ensure Councillors get priority at our
weekend sessions. As acting Chair at that meeting, I tried to do just that. My
impression was that by allowing Councillors to speak first and then opening it
to other members of the community, we were able to ensure that these sessions
were productive for Councillors while still remaining open and useful for the
larger community as well. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Le 2 juin 2010 à 08:20, William Drake a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Jun 2, 2010, at 2:24 AM, Adrian Kinderis wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I would like to suggest that there be no questions from the
floor during these sessions.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>When we last had this conversation didn't we decide
against <span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>draconian <o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> measures that would
preclude community participation (and were hence poorly <o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> received by some) and for
some intermediate steps like only Councilors at <o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> the table, chair gives
preference to Councilor comments and right sizes the <o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> time for others, etc? If
people think this has not worked sufficiently, <o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> wouldn't it be possible to
simply have an offline conversation with the most <o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> relevant parties saying
please respect the following ground rules, and to <o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> reiterate these at the
outset of meetings?</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Jun 2, 2010, at 2:51 AM, Adrian Kinderis wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I'll shout an extra round at the bar on Saturday night to make
up for it :)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Hmm...didn't I hear something like this a few meetings ago,
didn't materialize... :-)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>BTW, on the matter of after hour amusement, perhaps I'll
pass along something I pointed out to NCSG, might be of interest to some here:<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 1:33 PM, William Drake<br>
<<a href="mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch">william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch</a>>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Just an FYI for people who will be attending ICANN Brussels,
as with Paris two summers ago, this meeting overlaps with the annual Fete de la
Musique held across France, Belgium, Switzerland, etc. Just had a look at
the program <a
href="http://2010.fetedelamusique.be/recherches?tid=&tid_1=All&city=Bruxelles">http://2010.fetedelamusique.be/recherches?tid=&tid_1=All&city=Bruxelles</a> and
inter alia Saturday night 19th Toots and the Maytals is playing in the park
near the conference site.<o:p></o:p></p>
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