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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Wolf,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>That must have worked well at a conference with 20% the usual
participation level and no new DAG to bang on about…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I think it will be very different in Brussels. Hence my original
email.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I would love to hear from our Chair and Vice chair on this (not
you Stephane!).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Adrian Kinderis</span></b><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> KnobenW@telekom.de
[mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 03, 2010 9:45 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> stephane.vangelder@indom.com; william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Adrian Kinderis; council@gnso.icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> AW: [council] Meeting Protocol for Brussels and beyond...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Stéphane,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>I personally felt comfortable the way you were managing the weekend
sessions in Nairobi which means: councillors taking seats at the table and
speaking first to the various topics. Time for open discussion was still
available and seemed having been taken into schedule account. I would welcome
to keep it this way.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Regards</span>
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<span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Wolf-Ulrich</span><span
lang=DE> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span lang=DE
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Von:</span></b><span
lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> owner-council@gnso.icann.org
[mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Stéphane Van Gelder<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 08:37<br>
<b>An:</b> William Drake<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Adrian Kinderis; council@gnso.icann.org Council<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [council] Meeting Protocol for Brussels and beyond...</span><span
lang=DE><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Bill's summary is spot on as far as I can remember. In
Nairobi, Adrian had pointed out the need to ensure Councillors get priority at
our weekend sessions. As acting Chair at that meeting, I tried to do just that.
My impression was that by allowing Councillors to speak first and then opening
it to other members of the community, we were able to ensure that these
sessions were productive for Councillors while still remaining open and useful
for the larger community as well. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Stéphane<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Le 2 juin 2010 à 08:20, William Drake a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Hi Adrian, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Jun 2, 2010, at 2:24 AM, Adrian Kinderis wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I would like to suggest that there be no questions from the
floor during these sessions.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>When we last had this conversation didn't we decide
against <span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>draconian <o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> measures that would preclude community
participation (and were hence poorly <o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> received by some) and for some
intermediate steps like only Councilors at <o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> the table, chair gives preference to
Councilor comments and right sizes the <o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> time for others, etc? If people think
this has not worked sufficiently, <o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> wouldn't it be possible to simply have an
offline conversation with the most <o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> relevant parties saying please respect
the following ground rules, and to <o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> reiterate these at the outset of
meetings?</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Jun 2, 2010, at 2:51 AM, Adrian Kinderis wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I'll shout an extra round at the bar on Saturday night to
make up for it :)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Hmm...didn't I hear something like this a few meetings ago,
didn't materialize... :-)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>BTW, on the matter of after hour amusement, perhaps I'll
pass along something I pointed out to NCSG, might be of interest to some here:<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 1:33 PM, William Drake<br>
<<a href="mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch">william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Just an FYI for people who will be attending ICANN Brussels,
as with Paris two summers ago, this meeting overlaps with the annual Fete de la
Musique held across France, Belgium, Switzerland, etc. Just had a look at
the program <a
href="http://2010.fetedelamusique.be/recherches?tid=&tid_1=All&city=Bruxelles">http://2010.fetedelamusique.be/recherches?tid=&tid_1=All&city=Bruxelles</a> and
inter alia Saturday night 19th Toots and the Maytals is playing in the park
near the conference site.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Bill<o:p></o:p></p>
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