Hi Adrian,<br>thanks for asking my opinion.<br>I will make some comments on this regard from a personal perspective as a Noncom Appointee to the GNSO, and based on my experience in ICANN meetings and in other international and regional fora.<br>
<br>- I am in favor of open meetings, I think there is great value in multiparticipation and I support that. I also think that time and space should be well managed to allow GNSO council members to use efficiently the time of the meeting as well.<br>
<br>- About seats: I would find useful having name tags, and also for avoiding confusion main seats should be for GNSO Council Members.<br><br>- About questions and open mic, I suggest that the chair mention some time and order management rules at the beginning of the meeting. For example questions from other participants who are not GNSO council members could be done after the councillors have already spoken. Also it could be useful to say how much time each speaker has as a maximum, diversity in who speaks on the open mic also should be encouraged. If someone has already spoken then the floor should be given to some one else in the queue.<br>
<br>- About LANGUAGE: some of us and many of the general public participants have English as a second language. We all know that it is the working language of the GNSO and we accept this.<br>But sometimes native speakers using colloquial or local expressions, or speaking very quicly, makes it difficult or even impossible for us to understand what is being said.<br>
So I would suggest that our chair could also mention this and ask for those who will speak to do it in a clear an neutral language, if possible.<br><br>Thanks and regards<br>Olga<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/6/3 Adrian Kinderis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com.au">adrian@ausregistry.com.au</a>></span><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">That must have worked well at a conference with 20% the usual
participation level and no new DAG to bang on about…</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I think it will be very different in Brussels. Hence my original
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I would love to hear from our Chair and Vice chair on this (not
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[mailto:<a href="mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de" target="_blank">KnobenW@telekom.de</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 03, 2010 9:45 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:stephane.vangelder@indom.com" target="_blank">stephane.vangelder@indom.com</a>; <a href="mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch" target="_blank">william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch</a><div class="im">
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<b>Cc:</b> Adrian Kinderis; <a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: blue;">I personally felt comfortable the way you were managing the weekend
sessions in Nairobi which means: councillors taking seats at the table and
speaking first to the various topics. Time for open discussion was still
available and seemed having been taken into schedule account. I would welcome
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<p><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";" lang="DE">Regards</span>
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[mailto:<a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>] <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Stéphane Van Gelder<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 08:37<br>
<b>An:</b> William Drake<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Bill's summary is spot on as far as I can remember. In
Nairobi, Adrian had pointed out the need to ensure Councillors get priority at
our weekend sessions. As acting Chair at that meeting, I tried to do just that.
My impression was that by allowing Councillors to speak first and then opening
it to other members of the community, we were able to ensure that these
sessions were productive for Councillors while still remaining open and useful
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intermediate steps like only Councilors at </span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hmm...didn't I hear something like this a few meetings ago,
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On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 1:33 PM, William Drake<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Just an FYI for people who will be attending ICANN Brussels,
as with Paris two summers ago, this meeting overlaps with the annual Fete de la
Musique held across France, Belgium, Switzerland, etc. Just had a look at
the program <a href="http://2010.fetedelamusique.be/recherches?tid=&tid_1=All&city=Bruxelles" target="_blank">http://2010.fetedelamusique.be/recherches?tid=&tid_1=All&city=Bruxelles</a> and
inter alia Saturday night 19th Toots and the Maytals is playing in the park
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