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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Olga<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Well stated.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>On the “open mic”, we will need then to assure that
our Council questions are not allowed to consume the full time. I suspect that
the Chair will have to limit our discussion times some to insure that public
questions are allowed time. In other public forums I have worked (i.e. Land
Use Commission and several others) we provided a table with a signup list for the
public to speak and a timer to insure that they did not go on too long. (We
were trying avoid the 7PM to 3AM meetings and eventually we just had to close
the meetings at 11:30PM anyway so we could get some sleep on Commission nights.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>And as to English as a 2<sup>nd</sup> language, I’m from
the southern part of the US originally where we tend to speak more softly and
slowly and with different accents. I was in my mid-20’s on my first trip
abroad for AID to the middle east. I thought I spoke “English” but
I never understood a single word the Heathrow customs officer said to me; the
woman behind me very patiently repeated everything he said to me so I could
understand what he was asking me. So I understand at least somewhat that issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Take care<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Terry<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <b>On Behalf
Of </b>Olga Cavalli<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 03, 2010 8:33 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Adrian Kinderis<br>
<b>Cc:</b> KnobenW@telekom.de; stephane.vangelder@indom.com;
william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch; council@gnso.icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [council] Meeting Protocol for Brussels and beyond...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Hi Adrian,<br>
thanks for asking my opinion.<br>
I will make some comments on this regard from a personal perspective as a
Noncom Appointee to the GNSO, and based on my experience in ICANN meetings and
in other international and regional fora.<br>
<br>
- I am in favor of open meetings, I think there is great value in
multiparticipation and I support that. I also think that time and space should
be well managed to allow GNSO council members to use efficiently the time of
the meeting as well.<br>
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- About seats: I would find useful having name tags, and also for avoiding
confusion main seats should be for GNSO Council Members.<br>
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- About questions and open mic, I suggest that the chair mention some time and
order management rules at the beginning of the meeting. For example questions
from other participants who are not GNSO council members could be done after
the councillors have already spoken. Also it could be useful to say how much
time each speaker has as a maximum, diversity in who speaks on the open mic
also should be encouraged. If someone has already spoken then the floor should
be given to some one else in the queue.<br>
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- About LANGUAGE: some of us and many of the general public participants have
English as a second language. We all know that it is the working language of
the GNSO and we accept this.<br>
But sometimes native speakers using colloquial or local expressions, or
speaking very quicly, makes it difficult or even impossible for us to
understand what is being said.<br>
So I would suggest that our chair could also mention this and ask for those who
will speak to do it in a clear an neutral language, if possible.<br>
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Thanks and regards<br>
Olga<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>2010/6/3 Adrian Kinderis <<a
href="mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com.au">adrian@ausregistry.com.au</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Wolf,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>That must have worked well at a
conference with 20% the usual participation level and no new DAG to bang on
about…</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I think it will be very different in
Brussels. Hence my original email.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I would love to hear from our Chair and
Vice chair on this (not you Stephane!).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Adrian Kinderis</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a
href="mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de" target="_blank">KnobenW@telekom.de</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de" target="_blank">KnobenW@telekom.de</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 03, 2010 9:45 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:stephane.vangelder@indom.com" target="_blank">stephane.vangelder@indom.com</a>;
<a href="mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch" target="_blank">william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Adrian Kinderis; <a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org"
target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Subject:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'> AW: [council] Meeting Protocol for Brussels and
beyond...</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'>Stéphane,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>I personally felt comfortable the way you
were managing the weekend sessions in Nairobi which means: councillors taking
seats at the table and speaking first to the various topics. Time for open
discussion was still available and seemed having been taken into schedule
account. I would welcome to keep it this way.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Regards</span>
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<span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Wolf-Ulrich</span><span
lang=DE> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span
lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt'>Von:</span></b><span lang=DE style='font-size:
10.0pt'> <a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>]
<b>Im Auftrag von </b>Stéphane Van Gelder<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 08:37<br>
<b>An:</b> William Drake<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Adrian Kinderis; <a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org"
target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a> Council<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [council] Meeting Protocol for Brussels and beyond...</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Bill's
summary is spot on as far as I can remember. In Nairobi, Adrian had pointed out
the need to ensure Councillors get priority at our weekend sessions. As acting
Chair at that meeting, I tried to do just that. My impression was that by
allowing Councillors to speak first and then opening it to other members of the
community, we were able to ensure that these sessions were productive for
Councillors while still remaining open and useful for the larger community as
well. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Stéphane<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Le
2 juin 2010 à 08:20, William Drake a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hi
Adrian, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On
Jun 2, 2010, at 2:24 AM, Adrian Kinderis wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I
would like to suggest that there be no questions from the floor during these
sessions.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>When
we last had this conversation didn't we decide against <span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>draconian </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'> measures that would preclude
community participation (and were hence poorly </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'> received by some) and for some
intermediate steps like only Councilors at </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'> the table, chair gives preference
to Councilor comments and right sizes the </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'> time for others, etc? If people
think this has not worked sufficiently, </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'> wouldn't it be possible to simply
have an offline conversation with the most </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'> relevant parties saying please
respect the following ground rules, and to </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'> reiterate these at the outset of
meetings?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On
Jun 2, 2010, at 2:51 AM, Adrian Kinderis wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I'll
shout an extra round at the bar on Saturday night to make up for it :)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hmm...didn't
I hear something like this a few meetings ago, didn't materialize... :-)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>BTW,
on the matter of after hour amusement, perhaps I'll pass along something I
pointed out to NCSG, might be of interest to some here:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 1:33 PM, William Drake<br>
<<a href="mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch" target="_blank">william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hi<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Just
an FYI for people who will be attending ICANN Brussels, as with Paris two
summers ago, this meeting overlaps with the annual Fete de la Musique held
across France, Belgium, Switzerland, etc. Just had a look at the program <a
href="http://2010.fetedelamusique.be/recherches?tid=&tid_1=All&city=Bruxelles"
target="_blank">http://2010.fetedelamusique.be/recherches?tid=&tid_1=All&city=Bruxelles</a> and
inter alia Saturday night 19th Toots and the Maytals is playing in the park
near the conference site.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Bill<o:p></o:p></p>
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