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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=052300219-08062010><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Unfortunately, I don't have time for anything more
elaborate or detailed and won't until early next
week. </FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Gomes, Chuck
[mailto:cgomes@verisign.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 08, 2010 3:00
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Rosette, Kristina; icann@rodenbaugh.com;
council@gnso.icann.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [council] FW: [soac-discussion]
FW: Communication with ACSO on the next RTs<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I
was hoping for something a little more convincing to increase the chances of
convincing Janis. I think we have a pretty good argument for
Whois.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Chuck<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> Rosette, Kristina
[mailto:krosette@cov.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 08, 2010 1:04
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Gomes, Chuck; icann@rodenbaugh.com;
council@gnso.icann.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [council] FW: [soac-discussion]
FW: Communication with ACSO on the next RTs<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Important
issue, extensive expertise within SGs, not as convinced as you are that there
aren't philosophical variances among the SGs. On a more practical note,
we've all already got too much going on without having to spend extra time
determining which SG person goes forward. </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Gomes, Chuck<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 08, 2010 12:58
PM<BR><B>To:</B> icann@rodenbaugh.com;
council@gnso.icann.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [council] FW:
[soac-discussion] FW: Communication with ACSO on the next
RTs</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Mike/Kristina,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Can
you provide me some rationale to support 4 on the SSR
RT?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Chuck<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Mike Rodenbaugh<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 08, 2010 12:51
PM<BR><B>To:</B> council@gnso.icann.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [council] FW:
[soac-discussion] FW: Communication with ACSO on the next
RTs<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Agree
w. Kristina.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Mike
Rodenbaugh<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">RODENBAUGH
LAW<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">tel/fax:
+1 (415) 738-8087<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><A
href="http://rodenbaugh.com/">http://rodenbaugh.com</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Rosette, Kristina<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 08, 2010 9:22
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Gomes, Chuck; KnobenW@telekom.de;
MWong@piercelaw.edu<BR><B>Cc:</B> council@gnso.icann.org<BR><B>Subject:</B>
RE: [council] FW: [soac-discussion] FW: Communication with ACSO on the next
RTs<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Agree
w/r/t/ Whois and disagree w/r/t SSR.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Don't
believe we should be negotiating against ourselves by agreeing to two. Also,
it seems to me that the ramifications of the selectors rejecting GNSO input
as to participant number are potentially significant. In particular,
the irony of doing so while the accountability and transparency review is
underway is pretty amazing. I think that would play pretty well
(against ICANN, that is) in a number of important
fora.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> Gomes, Chuck
[mailto:cgomes@verisign.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 08, 2010 8:33
AM<BR><B>To:</B> KnobenW@telekom.de; Rosette, Kristina;
MWong@piercelaw.edu<BR><B>Cc:</B>
council@gnso.icann.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [council] FW:
[soac-discussion] FW: Communication with ACSO on the next
RTs</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">So
far, I think everyone who has commented supports Tim’s suggestion that
there should be four GNSO members on the Whois RT and most seem to support
a default of one rep per SG for all RTs. I personally think that we
might maximize our chances of getting four on the Whois RT if we concede
to having two on the SSR RT and also think that it is fairly easy to make
a strong case for that. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><U><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">The
Case for Four on the Whois RT<o:p></o:p></SPAN></U></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Whereas
Internet users across the whole ICANN community are impacted by Whois
policy, I don’t think there is any doubt that GNSO constituents are
impacted the most. It is gTLD registrants whose data is displayed
and used. It is gTLD contracted parties who are required to
implement Whois and who best understand the customer service and
operational issues related to Whois offerings. It is commercial gTLD
registrants whose businesses are affected when IP rights are
violated. It is noncommercial users who have most often pointed out
the need for privacy of Whois information and noncommercial organizations
that are impacted in similar ways as commercial
businesses.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">In
addition, because of the GNSO’s long and belabored Whois policy
development history and varied Whois operational offerings, the GNSO has
the best source of Whois experts from various points of view. There
is also good evidence that each SG provides a unique area of expertise and
represents different points of view with regard to Whois
policy.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><U><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">The
Case for Two on the SSR RT</SPAN></U><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I
believe that the SSR RT requires a higher degree of technical expertise
than policy expertise and is less dependent on SG areas of focus. I
also believe that the GNSO community as well as the ICANN community is
much more united in terms of SSR issues and hence representation from
different sectors may not necessarily produce significantly different
contributions, especially when compared to a topic like Whois.
Particularly with regard to the GNSO, if each SG endorses one candidate
for the SSR team as proposed, I suspect that the SSR RT would not be
negatively impacted if the Selectors choose a RrSG candidate over a RySG
candidate or a NCSG candidate over a CSG candidate or any other comparison
because all of us will likely be putting forth strong security
experts.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">The
SSR RT may be an area where external experts may be especially
helpful. By having fewer reps from SOs and ACs, space may be
available for a few more experts.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><U><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">My
Conclusion<o:p></o:p></SPAN></U></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I
suggest that I make the case for four GNSO reps on the Whois RT and agree
to two on the SSR team. This might set a good precedent for
asking for four on the New gTLD RT because that, like Whois, is a big GNSO
issue and one that there are clear variances in points of view from each
SG.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Chuck<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>KnobenW@telekom.de<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 08, 2010
7:46 AM<BR><B>To:</B> krosette@cov.com; MWong@piercelaw.edu<BR><B>Cc:</B>
council@gnso.icann.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> AW: [council] FW:
[soac-discussion] FW: Communication with ACSO on the next
RTs<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">agreed!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=DE
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Regards</SPAN><SPAN
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2010 19:46<BR><B>An:</B> Mary Wong<BR><B>Cc:</B> GNSO
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<B>On Behalf Of </B>Mary Wong<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 07, 2010
1:43 PM<BR><B>Cc:</B> GNSO Council<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [council]
FW: [soac-discussion] FW: Communication with ACSO on the next
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with Tim's arguments and suggestion for a response, and in addition
support Bill's suggestion that all RTs start with a default
distribution of 1 rep per SG from the GNSO (with deviations being
explained and justified according to each RT
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[council] FW: [soac-discussion] FW: Communication with
ACSO on the next
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<P class=MsoNormal
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would be interesting to hear the rationale for reverting to the
original proposal of tiny unrepresentative RTs. In any
event, I strongly agree with Tim that there really has to be
four for WHOIS, the perspectives of the SGs are just too
variable for any two to represent the others, and the whole
process could become a focal point of controversy. Same
goes for the pending RT on competition and consumer
issues. As for security, I agree that two may be
relatively less problematic, but only relatively... it's more
difficult to judge ex ante what level of agreement there is or
isn't here across some SGs on the various issues. <BR><BR>It'd
be a lot easier if they'd just default to four across the board
in order to ensure community representation and diverse skill
sets at the table, rather than turning RT size into a needless
source of angst.<BR><BR>Bill<BR><BR><BR>On Jun 7, 2010, at 4:26
PM, Tim Ruiz wrote:<BR><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">> <BR>> I'm not too
concerned about having only two seats on the Security
RT,<BR>> but strongly oppose accepting only two seats on the
Whois. <BR>> <BR>> It is perfectly reasonable to allow one
seat each to the SSAC, GAC, and<BR>> ASO. But I think it's
totally implausible to assume a well represented<BR>> RT with
only two for the GNSO and one each for the ccNSO and the ALAC.
I<BR>> believe we make a very strong statement insisting that
each of those are<BR>> doubled - four for the GNSO (one for
each SG, no less), two each for the<BR>> ccNSO and the ALAC
due to the size of their memberships. That would make<BR>>
the RT 14 members, and that is certainly workable and more
realistic.<BR>> <BR>> I realize the ALAC and ccNSO can
defend themselves, but given the<BR>> selectors concerns over
the team size I think we should respond with a<BR>> total
picture of what we think the RT should look like and
why.<BR>> <BR>> Tim<BR>> <BR>> -------- Original
Message --------<BR>> Subject: [council] FW:
[soac-discussion] FW: Communication with ACSO on<BR>> the
next RTs<BR>> From: "Gomes, Chuck"
<cgomes@verisign.com><BR>> Date: Fri, June 04, 2010
1:44 pm<BR>> To: <council@gnso.icann.org><BR>>
<BR>> Please note what the AoC Selectors have proposed for
the next two RTs. <BR>> Please provide any comments you have
on this list. Time permitting, we<BR>> will also
briefly discuss this in meeting on 10 June.<BR>> <BR>>
Chuck<BR>> <BR>> From:
owner-soac-discussion@icann.org<BR>>
[mailto:owner-soac-discussion@icann.org] On Behalf Of Janis
Karklins<BR>> Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 1:50 PM<BR>> To:
soac-discussion@icann.org<BR>> Cc: 'Rod Beckstrom'; 'Donna
Austin'; 'Olof Nordling'<BR>> Subject: [soac-discussion] FW:
Communication with ACSO on the next RTs<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> Dear colleagues<BR>> <BR>> On behalf of
Selectors I would like to propose that the size and<BR>>
composition of the two next review teams would be as
follows:<BR>>
<BR>>
Security
<BR>> WHOIS<BR>> GAC, including the
Chair
2
1<BR>>
GNSO
2
<BR>>
2<BR>>
ccNSO
2
<BR>> 1<BR>>
ALAC
2
<BR>>
1<BR>>
SSAC
1
<BR>>
1<BR>>
RSSAC
1<BR>>
ASO
1
<BR>>
1<BR>> Independent
expert
1-2
2 (law<BR>> enforcement/privacy experts)<BR>>
CEO
1
<BR>>
1<BR>>
13-14
<BR>>
10<BR>> <BR>> I understand that your initial
suggestions/requests were not fully<BR>> accommodated, but
for the sake of efficiency, credibility of the<BR>> process,
budgetary limitations Selectors have developed this
proposal.<BR>> If we would take into account all wishes, the
RT size would be over 20<BR>> which in Selectors’ view is not
credible option.<BR>> <BR>> I hope that proposal will be
equally unacceptable for everybody. I would<BR>> appreciate
your comments or expression of non-objection in coming
week.<BR>> Only after assessment of the violence of your
opposition the Selectors<BR>> will make their proposal (in
present form or modified) public.<BR>> <BR>> Best
regards<BR>> JK<BR>> <BR>>
<BR><BR>***********************************************************<BR>William
J. Drake<BR>Senior Associate<BR>Centre for International
Governance<BR>Graduate Institute of International
and<BR>Development Studies<BR>Geneva,
Switzerland<BR>william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch<BR>www.graduateinstitute.ch/cig/drake.html<BR>www.linkedin.com/in/williamjdrake<BR>***********************************************************</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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