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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Chuck<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I also agree with Kristina, Mike, and Mary.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:6.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>All three (SSR) are already
huge issues and will directly affect all the rollout and use of TLD’s,
IDN_TLDs, and ccTLDs and some of the issues that could be coming would include:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-right:3.0pt;text-indent:-.25in;
mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>         
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Punycode storage of IDN names – Neither any human nor most existing
security mechanisms (anti-virus, firewalls, etc) can read it directly.  It is
the main reason you need “standard script” usage.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-right:3.0pt;text-indent:-.25in;
mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>         
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>DNSSec – Can it and should it be pushed to all TLDs?  (After a
demo of DNS hacks a couple weeks back, I’m not sure I will ever trust a
wireless hotspot fully again.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-right:3.0pt;text-indent:-.25in;
mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>         
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>DNSSec – Credintials – Key distribution chains and processes,
rollover mechanisms, and  there will likely be some of revocation process
needed for bad behavior.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-right:3.0pt;text-indent:-.25in;
mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>         
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>DNSSec – Operational issues yet to be determined too.  DNSSec generates
a 30x increase in response traffic for instance plus signature processing
overhead.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-right:3.0pt;text-indent:-.25in;
mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>         
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Network management systems likewise will likely have initial
issues with IDNs too.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-right:3.0pt;text-indent:-.25in;
mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>         
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Increased discussions of “network cyber identity requirements”
and how these might work in an IDN environment.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Routing reliability as IPv6 vastly increases the route table
sizes<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-right:3.0pt;text-indent:-.25in;
mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>IPv6 reachability and initial usage rollouts.  (Outside of
Microsoft, I could not say that anyone on the globe has a large scale IPv6
infrastructure working yet.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>New “whois” issues that could be created by fact that more,
maybe most, IPv6 addresses will be indirectly assigned through an ISP to the
end user or organization rather than directly assigned via IANA and the RIRs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:6.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>From an operational point of
view, with implementation of TLDs, ccTLDs, IDN_TLDs,  DNSSec, and IPv6 plus the
issues with route stability and huge growth in cybercrime; one could reasonably
expect that many unseen/unknown operational issues will affect GNSO plans and
policies.  (and certainly keep the SSR busy!) <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:6.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>As I said in my note the
other week, the economies and critical infrastructure (communications, power,
financial, etc) of at least 50 nations around the globe are completely tied to
the security, stability, and reliability of the Internet so SSR issues are considered
very carefully by most governments.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:6.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Myself, I’d try to keep the 4
slots for the GNSO so we have a stronger input on how SSR issues get resolved.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:6.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Take care<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:6.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Terry<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> owner-council@gnso.icann.org
[mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mary Wong<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 08, 2010 12:25 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> council@gnso.icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [council] FW: [soac-discussion] FW: Communication with ACSO
on the next RTs<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I agree with
Kristina that it's an important issue on which there is a good deal of
experience within the GNSO.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I note that Janis'
email on this issue mentioned "efficiency, credibility of the process,
[and] budgetary limitations" as reasons for the numbers given for each
upcoming RT. I'm not sure that an additional 2 GNSO reps will be detrimental to
efficiency, and I should think it would actually add to the credibility of the
process - which leaves "budgetary limitations" as the remaining
(relatively unconvincing) reason.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>In addition, and
although it's true that it's suggested they each get only 1 rep on the WHOIS
RT, ccNSO and ALAC each get 2 on the SS RT. I am highly reluctant to get into a
"us vs. them" or "who 'deserves' more slots" pre-selection
contest amongst the ACSOs, but it seems to me as though this type of artificial
limitation of GNSO slots - as opposed to the suggested default of 4 per RT -
will inevitably lead us there.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Chuck and others
more experienced at this type of thing, will it be such a bad strategy to ask
for 4 GNSO slots (1 per SG) for each RT, but if the Selectors feel (strongly)
differently, they should give us better reasons for, say, limiting the SS RT
besides the general ones quoted by Janis? <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>That said, I'd hate
to not get 4 GNSO reps at all for any RT ..... :(<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Mary<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><strong><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:purple'>Mary W
S Wong</span></strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Professor of Law
& Chair, Graduate IP Programs<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Franklin Pierce Law
Center<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Two White Street<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Concord, NH 03301<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>USA<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Email: <a
href="mailto:mwong@piercelaw.edu">mwong@piercelaw.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Phone:
1-603-513-5143<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Webpage: <a
href="http://www.piercelaw.edu/marywong/index.php">http://www.piercelaw.edu/marywong/index.php</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Selected
writings available on the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) at: <a
href="http://ssrn.com/author=437584">http://ssrn.com/author=437584</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br>
<br>
>>> <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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    style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From: </span></strong><span
    style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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    <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
    style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>"Rosette,
    Kristina" <krosette@cov.com><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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    style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>To:</span></strong><span
    style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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    <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
    style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>"Gomes,
    Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com>, <icann@rodenbaugh.com>,
    <council@gnso.icann.org><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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    <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><strong><span
    style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Date: </span></strong><span
    style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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    <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
    style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>6/8/2010 3:07 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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    <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><strong><span
    style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Subject: </span></strong><span
    style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
    </td>
    <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
    style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>RE: [council] FW:
    [soac-discussion] FW: Communication with ACSO on the next RTs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Unfortunately,
  I don't have time for anything more elaborate or detailed and won't until
  early next week. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><o:p> </o:p></p>
  <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;
  text-align:center'>
  <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center>
  </div>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
  12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Gomes, Chuck
  [mailto:cgomes@verisign.com] <br>
  <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 08, 2010 3:00 PM<br>
  <b>To:</b> Rosette, Kristina; icann@rodenbaugh.com; council@gnso.icann.org<br>
  <b>Subject:</b> RE: [council] FW: [soac-discussion] FW: Communication with
  ACSO on the next RTs</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
  color:#1F497D'>I was hoping for something a little more convincing to
  increase the chances of convincing Janis.  I think we have a pretty good
  argument for Whois.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
  color:#1F497D'>Chuck<o:p></o:p></span></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
  color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Rosette, Kristina
  [mailto:krosette@cov.com] <br>
  <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 08, 2010 1:04 PM<br>
  <b>To:</b> Gomes, Chuck; icann@rodenbaugh.com; council@gnso.icann.org<br>
  <b>Subject:</b> RE: [council] FW: [soac-discussion] FW: Communication with
  ACSO on the next RTs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </div>
  </div>
  <p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Important
  issue, extensive expertise within SGs, not as convinced as you are that there
  aren't philosophical variances among the SGs.  On a more practical note,
  we've all already got too much going on without having to spend extra time
  determining which SG person goes forward.  </span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><o:p> </o:p></p>
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  text-align:center'>
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  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
  12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
  owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <b>On
  Behalf Of </b>Gomes, Chuck<br>
  <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 08, 2010 12:58 PM<br>
  <b>To:</b> icann@rodenbaugh.com; council@gnso.icann.org<br>
  <b>Subject:</b> RE: [council] FW: [soac-discussion] FW: Communication with
  ACSO on the next RTs</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
  color:#1F497D'>Mike/Kristina,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
  color:#1F497D'>Can you provide me some rationale to support 4 on the SSR RT?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
  color:#1F497D'>Chuck<o:p></o:p></span></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
  color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
  owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <b>On
  Behalf Of </b>Mike Rodenbaugh<br>
  <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 08, 2010 12:51 PM<br>
  <b>To:</b> council@gnso.icann.org<br>
  <b>Subject:</b> RE: [council] FW: [soac-discussion] FW: Communication with
  ACSO on the next RTs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </div>
  </div>
  <p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
  color:#1F497D'>Agree w. Kristina.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
  <div>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
  style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Mike
  Rodenbaugh<o:p></o:p></span></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
  style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>RODENBAUGH
  LAW<o:p></o:p></span></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
  style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>tel/fax: 
  +1 (415) 738-8087<o:p></o:p></span></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
  style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a
  href="http://rodenbaugh.com/">http://rodenbaugh.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
  owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <b>On
  Behalf Of </b>Rosette, Kristina<br>
  <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 08, 2010 9:22 AM<br>
  <b>To:</b> Gomes, Chuck; KnobenW@telekom.de; MWong@piercelaw.edu<br>
  <b>Cc:</b> council@gnso.icann.org<br>
  <b>Subject:</b> RE: [council] FW: [soac-discussion] FW: Communication with
  ACSO on the next RTs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </div>
  </div>
  <p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Agree
  w/r/t/ Whois and disagree w/r/t SSR.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Don't
  believe we should be negotiating against ourselves by agreeing to two. Also,
  it seems to me that the ramifications of the selectors rejecting GNSO input
  as to participant number are potentially significant.  In particular,
  the irony of doing so while the accountability and transparency review is
  underway is pretty amazing.  I think that would play pretty well
  (against ICANN, that is) in a number of important fora.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>
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  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
  12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Gomes, Chuck
  [mailto:cgomes@verisign.com] <br>
  <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 08, 2010 8:33 AM<br>
  <b>To:</b> KnobenW@telekom.de; Rosette, Kristina; MWong@piercelaw.edu<br>
  <b>Cc:</b> council@gnso.icann.org<br>
  <b>Subject:</b> RE: [council] FW: [soac-discussion] FW: Communication with
  ACSO on the next RTs</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
  color:#1F497D'>So far, I think everyone who has commented supports Tim’s
  suggestion that there should be four GNSO members on the Whois RT and most
  seem to support a default of one rep per SG for all RTs.  I personally
  think that we might maximize our chances of getting four on the Whois RT if
  we concede to having two on the SSR RT and also think that it is fairly easy
  to make a strong case for that.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
  color:#1F497D'>The Case for Four on the Whois RT<o:p></o:p></span></u></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
  color:#1F497D'>Whereas Internet users across the whole ICANN community are
  impacted by Whois policy, I don’t think there is any doubt that GNSO
  constituents are impacted the most.  It is gTLD registrants whose data
  is displayed and used.  It is gTLD contracted parties who are required
  to implement Whois and who best understand the customer service and
  operational issues related to Whois offerings.  It is commercial gTLD
  registrants whose businesses are affected when IP rights are violated. 
  It is noncommercial users who have most often pointed out the need for
  privacy of Whois information and noncommercial organizations that are
  impacted in similar ways as commercial businesses.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
  color:#1F497D'>In addition, because of the GNSO’s long and belabored Whois
  policy development history and varied Whois operational offerings, the GNSO
  has the best source of Whois experts from various points of view.  There
  is also good evidence that each SG provides a unique area of expertise and
  represents different points of view with regard to Whois policy.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
  color:#1F497D'>The Case for Two on the SSR RT</span></u><span
  style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
  color:#1F497D'>I believe that the SSR RT requires a higher degree of
  technical expertise than policy expertise and is less dependent on SG areas
  of focus.  I also believe that the GNSO community as well as the ICANN
  community is much more united in terms of SSR issues and hence representation
  from different sectors may not necessarily produce significantly different
  contributions, especially when compared to a topic like Whois. 
  Particularly with regard to the GNSO, if each SG endorses one candidate for
  the SSR team as proposed, I suspect that the SSR RT would not be negatively
  impacted if the Selectors choose a RrSG candidate over a RySG candidate or a
  NCSG candidate over a CSG candidate or any other comparison because all of us
  will likely be putting forth strong security experts.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
  color:#1F497D'>The SSR RT may be an area where external experts may be
  especially helpful.  By having fewer reps from SOs and ACs, space may be
  available for a few more experts.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
  color:#1F497D'>My Conclusion<o:p></o:p></span></u></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
  color:#1F497D'>I suggest that I make the case for four GNSO reps on the Whois
  RT and agree to two on the SSR team.  This might set a good precedent
   for asking for four on the New gTLD RT because that, like Whois, is a
  big GNSO issue and one that there are clear variances in points of view from
  each SG.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
  color:#1F497D'>Chuck<o:p></o:p></span></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
  color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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  <div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
  owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <b>On
  Behalf Of </b>KnobenW@telekom.de<br>
  <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 08, 2010 7:46 AM<br>
  <b>To:</b> krosette@cov.com; MWong@piercelaw.edu<br>
  <b>Cc:</b> council@gnso.icann.org<br>
  <b>Subject:</b> AW: [council] FW: [soac-discussion] FW: Communication with
  ACSO on the next RTs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </div>
  </div>
  <p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>agreed!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
  <div>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </div>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
  <p><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Regards</span><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <br>
  </span><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Wolf-Ulrich</span><span
  lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
  <div>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </div>
  <blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
  <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;
  text-align:center'><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
  <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center>
  </span></div>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
  12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><b><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
  "Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Von:</span></b><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;
  font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> owner-council@gnso.icann.org
  [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Rosette, Kristina<br>
  <b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 7. Juni 2010 19:46<br>
  <b>An:</b> Mary Wong<br>
  <b>Cc:</b> GNSO Council<br>
  <b>Betreff:</b> RE: [council] FW: [soac-discussion] FW: Communication with
  ACSO on the next RTs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>+1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
  <blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
  <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;
  text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
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  </span></div>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
  12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
  owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <b>On
  Behalf Of </b>Mary Wong<br>
  <b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 07, 2010 1:43 PM<br>
  <b>Cc:</b> GNSO Council<br>
  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [council] FW: [soac-discussion] FW: Communication with
  ACSO on the next RTs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
  <div>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I agree with Tim's
  arguments and suggestion for a response, and in addition support Bill's
  suggestion that all RTs start with a default distribution of 1 rep per SG
  from the GNSO (with deviations being explained and justified according to
  each RT scope/topic).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </div>
  <div>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </div>
  <div>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </div>
  <div>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Mary<o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </div>
  <div>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </div>
  <div>
  <div>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><strong><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:purple'>Mary
  W S Wong</span></strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </div>
  <div>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Professor of Law
  & Chair, Graduate IP Programs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </div>
  <div>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Franklin Pierce
  Law Center<o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </div>
  <div>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Two White Street<o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </div>
  <div>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Concord, NH 03301<o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </div>
  <div>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>USA<o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </div>
  <div>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Email: <a
  href="mailto:mwong@piercelaw.edu">mwong@piercelaw.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </div>
  <div>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Phone:
  1-603-513-5143<o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </div>
  <div>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Webpage: <a
  href="http://www.piercelaw.edu/marywong/index.php">http://www.piercelaw.edu/marywong/index.php</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </div>
  <div>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Selected
  writings available on the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) at: <a
  href="http://ssrn.com/author=437584">http://ssrn.com/author=437584</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
  </div>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br>
  <br>
  >>> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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   background:#F3F3F3'>
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      <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
      <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><strong><span
      style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From: </span></strong><span
      style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
      </td>
      <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
      <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
      style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>William Drake
      <william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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     </tr>
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      <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
      <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><strong><span
      style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>To:</span></strong><span
      style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
      </td>
      <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
      <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
      style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>"Tim
      Ruiz" <tim@godaddy.com><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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      <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><strong><span
      style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>CC:</span></strong><span
      style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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      <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'>
      <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
      style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>"GNSO
      Council " <council@gnso.icann.org><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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      <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><strong><span
      style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Date: </span></strong><span
      style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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      <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
      style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>6/7/2010 11:05
      AM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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      <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><strong><span
      style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Subject: </span></strong><span
      style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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      <p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
      style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Re: [council]
      FW: [soac-discussion] FW: Communication with ACSO on the next RTs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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    margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><br>
    Hi<br>
    <br>
    It would be interesting to hear the rationale for reverting to the original
    proposal of tiny unrepresentative RTs.  In any event, I strongly agree
    with Tim that there really has to be four for WHOIS, the perspectives of
    the SGs are just too variable for any two to represent the others, and the
    whole process could become a focal point of controversy.  Same goes
    for the pending RT on competition and consumer issues.  As for security,
    I agree that two may be relatively less problematic, but only relatively...
    it's more difficult to judge ex ante what level of agreement there is or
    isn't here across some SGs on the various issues. <br>
    <br>
    It'd be a lot easier if they'd just default to four across the board in
    order to ensure community representation and diverse skill sets at the
    table, rather than turning RT size into a needless source of angst.<br>
    <br>
    Bill<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    On Jun 7, 2010, at 4:26 PM, Tim Ruiz wrote:<br>
    <br>
    <span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>> <br>
    > I'm not too concerned about having only two seats on the Security RT,<br>
    > but strongly oppose accepting only two seats on the Whois. <br>
    > <br>
    > It is perfectly reasonable to allow one seat each to the SSAC, GAC,
    and<br>
    > ASO. But I think it's totally implausible to assume a well represented<br>
    > RT with only two for the GNSO and one each for the ccNSO and the ALAC.
    I<br>
    > believe we make a very strong statement insisting that each of those
    are<br>
    > doubled - four for the GNSO (one for each SG, no less), two each for
    the<br>
    > ccNSO and the ALAC due to the size of their memberships. That would
    make<br>
    > the RT 14 members, and that is certainly workable and more realistic.<br>
    > <br>
    > I realize the ALAC and ccNSO can defend themselves, but given the<br>
    > selectors concerns over the team size I think we should respond with a<br>
    > total picture of what we think the RT should look like and why.<br>
    > <br>
    > Tim<br>
    > <br>
    > -------- Original Message --------<br>
    > Subject: [council] FW: [soac-discussion] FW: Communication with ACSO
    on<br>
    > the next RTs<br>
    > From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com><br>
    > Date: Fri, June 04, 2010 1:44 pm<br>
    > To: <council@gnso.icann.org><br>
    > <br>
    > Please note what the AoC Selectors have proposed for the next two RTs.
    <br>
    > Please provide any comments you have on this list.  Time
    permitting, we<br>
    > will also briefly discuss this in meeting on 10 June.<br>
    > <br>
    > Chuck<br>
    > <br>
    > From: owner-soac-discussion@icann.org<br>
    > [mailto:owner-soac-discussion@icann.org] On Behalf Of Janis Karklins<br>
    > Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 1:50 PM<br>
    > To: soac-discussion@icann.org<br>
    > Cc: 'Rod Beckstrom'; 'Donna Austin'; 'Olof Nordling'<br>
    > Subject: [soac-discussion] FW: Communication with ACSO on the next RTs<br>
    > <br>
    > <br>
    > <br>
    > Dear colleagues<br>
    > <br>
    > On behalf of Selectors I would like to propose that the size and<br>
    > composition of the two next review teams would be as follows:<br>
    > <br>
    >                                                   
    Security            <br>
    >  WHOIS<br>
    > GAC, including the
    Chair          
    2                             
    1<br>
    >
    GNSO                                               
    2                  
    <br>
    >         2<br>
    >
    ccNSO                                              
    2                  
    <br>
    >        1<br>
    >
    ALAC                                                
    2                 
    <br>
    >          1<br>
    >
    SSAC                                                 
    1                
    <br>
    >           1<br>
    >
    RSSAC                                              
    1<br>
    >
    ASO                                                   
    1               
    <br>
    >            
    1<br>
    > Independent
    expert                
    1-2                         
    2 (law<br>
    > enforcement/privacy experts)<br>
    >
    CEO                                                    
    1              
    <br>
    >            
    1<br>
    >                                                         
    13-14         <br>
    >              
    10<br>
    > <br>
    > I understand that your initial suggestions/requests were not fully<br>
    > accommodated, but for the sake of efficiency, credibility of the<br>
    > process, budgetary limitations Selectors have developed this proposal.<br>
    > If we would take into account all wishes, the RT size would be over 20<br>
    > which in Selectors’ view is not credible option.<br>
    > <br>
    > I hope that proposal will be equally unacceptable for everybody. I
    would<br>
    > appreciate your comments or expression of non-objection in coming
    week.<br>
    > Only after assessment of the violence of your opposition the Selectors<br>
    > will make their proposal (in present form or modified) public.<br>
    > <br>
    > Best regards<br>
    > JK<br>
    > <br>
    > <br>
    <br>
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    William J. Drake<br>
    Senior Associate<br>
    Centre for International Governance<br>
    Graduate Institute of International and<br>
    Development Studies<br>
    Geneva, Switzerland<br>
    william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch<br>
    www.graduateinstitute.ch/cig/drake.html<br>
    www.linkedin.com/in/williamjdrake<br>
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