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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";

color:#1F497D'>Unfortunately, I sent Chris the two proposed topics yesterday

and he was planning on discussing them with the ccNSO today so it may be too

late to change topics now.  Assuming it is not too late, we would need to

keep the topics to a minimum because we only have 90 minutes and part of that

will be taken up by lunch.  In my opinion, topics should be of general

interest to most people in attendance and not too technical.  Topics that

benefit from joint ccNSO/GNSO discussion are ideal.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";

color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";

color:#1F497D'>Chuck<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";

color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span

style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Andrei Kolesnikov

[mailto:andrei@cctld.ru] <br>

<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 08, 2010 3:33 PM<br>

<b>To:</b> Gomes, Chuck; council@gnso.icann.org<br>

<b>Subject:</b> RE: [council] Topics for Joint Meetings in Brussels<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";

color:#1F497D'>Dear colleagues, <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";

color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";

color:#1F497D'>Regarding gNSO/ccNSO meeting and sync TLDs as a topic.  I

propose a different theme, because I have a feeling, that Sync TLD theme today

has a very limited implication, refer to Board resolution:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><i>Whereas,

the methodology to be taken by the IDN ccTLD manager to handle these particular

instances of parallel IDN ccTLDs is, in the short-term, the only option

available, but there are serious limits to where such an approach is viable in

practice, so that it cannot be viewed as a general solution, and that

consequently, long-term development work should be pursued;</i><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><i>Whereas,

significant analysis and possibly development work should continue on both

policy-based and technical elements of a solution for the introduction on a

more general basis of strings containing variants as TLD;</i><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";

color:#1F497D'>My recommendation to gNSO and ccNSO councilors is to focus on

interesting and “yet unknown” issues of “IDNs in non-IDN world”.  Please

find below a short list of issues to cover:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";

color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:22.95pt'><b><span style='color:black'>IDNs

  in NON-IDN world</span></b><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>

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  <p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>The issues and problems for the

  end users, registrars and registries are very similar: this world is not

  ready for IDNs</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:30.05pt'><span style='color:black'>Support

  of browsers</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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  padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:63.1pt'>

  <p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Overview of browsers behavior.

  DNS traffic cash-in: why local script goes to .COM? Why Google is my default

  for the IDN script / browser localization? How IDN development changes the

  food chain of typos, not-founds? </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;

  color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:30.05pt'><span style='color:black'>Support

  of email</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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  <p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Email functionality adds up to

  IDN popularity. Update on IETF.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;

  color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:30.05pt'><span style='color:black'>IDN

  code: “IDN-ization”, where to stop?</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;

  color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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  <p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>IDN code

  гттп://президент.рф/постановления/приказ1.гтяр</span><span style='font-size:

  11.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:30.05pt'><span style='color:black'>Community

  activities to get the thing done right</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;

  color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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  <p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>what can be done jointly ccNSO /

  gNSO to speed up IDN support on application level? What should we demand?</span><span

  style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";

color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";

color:#1F497D'>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";

color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";

color:#1F497D'>--andrei<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";

color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span

style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>

owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <b>On Behalf

Of </b>Gomes, Chuck<br>

<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, June 05, 2010 12:36 AM<br>

<b>To:</b> council@gnso.icann.org<br>

<b>Subject:</b> [council] Topics for Joint Meetings in Brussels<br>

<b>Importance:</b> High<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>

<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><<Survey

for Board meeting with GNSO in Brussels.docx>> </span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Assuming  I didn’t

miss anyone’s preferences, here is a summary of support for discussion topics in

our joint meetings in Brussels:</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><u><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>GAC/GNSO meeting</span></u><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>1.     </span>

<span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>DAG 4, including

morality and public order</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>o      </span>

Support: Bill, Jaime, Wolf, Mary<o:p></o:p></p>

<p><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>o      </span>

Oppose: <o:p></o:p></p>

<p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>2.     </span>

<span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>AoC, including

A&T RT and next reviews</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>o      </span>

Support: Bill, Jaime, Wolf, Mary<o:p></o:p></p>

<p><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>o      </span>

Oppose: <o:p></o:p></p>

<p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>3.     </span>

<span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>RAA</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>o      </span>

Support: Chuck, Mary?<o:p></o:p></p>

<p><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>o      </span>

Oppose: <o:p></o:p></p>

<p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>4.     </span>

<span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>IDN ccPDP</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'>o      </span>

<span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Support: </span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'>o      </span>

<span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Oppose: Chuck,</span>

<o:p></o:p></p>

<p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If there are

no objections by Monday, I plan to suggest to Janis that we discuss topics 1

& 2 with the GAC.  And would like to request a volunteer (or

volunteers) to draft a brief (less than 5 minutes) intro to each topic

including any questions we might have for the GAC.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><u><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Board/Staff/GNSO dinner

meeting</span></u><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>1.     </span>

<span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>There are rumblings that there

are some on the Board who think this meeting</span> <span style='font-family:

"Calibri","sans-serif"'>has outlived its usefulness; in light of that, it might

be useful to discuss the value or lack of value from both the GNSO and

Board/Staff perspective.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>o      </span>

<span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Support: Chuck, Stéphane</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>o      </span>

Oppose:  <o:p></o:p></p>

<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>2.     </span>

<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>What do Board

members understand about the</span> <span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>AoC

commitment to promote competition, consumer trust, and consumer choice in the

DNS marketplace, with a particular focus on GNSO work</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>o      </span>

<span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Support: Rosemary, Wolf</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>o      </span>

<span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Oppose:  </span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>3.     </span>

<span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>ICANN and Internet governance

directions</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>o      </span>

<span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Support: Terry, Bill, Jaime,

Rafik, Mary</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>o      </span>

<span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Oppose:  Wolf</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>4.     </span>

<span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>DAG 4, including

morality and public order</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>o      </span>

Support: Wolf, Mary<o:p></o:p></p>

<p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Note that I sent the

attached survey to Bruce Tonkin</span> <span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>for

the purpose of getting individual Board</span> <span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>responses

and asking Bruce what the best way of doing that would be.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><u><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>ccNSO/GNSO meeting</span></u><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>1.     </span>

<span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>DNS-CERT</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>o      </span>

<span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Support: Chuck, Bill, Mary</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>o      </span>

Oppose: <o:p></o:p></p>

<p><span style='color:#1F497D'>2.     </span>

Synchronized TLDs<o:p></o:p></p>

<p><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>o      </span>

Support: Andrei<o:p></o:p></p>

<p><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>o      </span>

Oppose: <o:p></o:p></p>

<p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>If there are no objections

by Monday, I will send these topics to</span> <span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Chris. 

Andrei has</span> <span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>volunteered

to prepare a brief intro to the Synchronized TLDs topic.  We need a

volunteer for the DNS-CERT to do the same.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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