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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I was hoping for something a little more convincing to increase
the chances of convincing Janis.  I think we have a pretty good argument for
Whois.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'>Chuck<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Rosette, Kristina
[mailto:krosette@cov.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 08, 2010 1:04 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gomes, Chuck; icann@rodenbaugh.com; council@gnso.icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [council] FW: [soac-discussion] FW: Communication with ACSO
on the next RTs<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Important
issue, extensive expertise within SGs, not as convinced as you are that there
aren't philosophical variances among the SGs.  On a more practical note,
we've all already got too much going on without having to spend extra time
determining which SG person goes forward.  </span><o:p></o:p></p>

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12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <b>On Behalf
Of </b>Gomes, Chuck<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 08, 2010 12:58 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> icann@rodenbaugh.com; council@gnso.icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [council] FW: [soac-discussion] FW: Communication with ACSO
on the next RTs</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Mike/Kristina,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Can you provide me some rationale to support 4 on the SSR RT?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Chuck<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <b>On Behalf
Of </b>Mike Rodenbaugh<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 08, 2010 12:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> council@gnso.icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [council] FW: [soac-discussion] FW: Communication with ACSO
on the next RTs<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Agree w. Kristina.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Mike
Rodenbaugh<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>RODENBAUGH
LAW<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>tel/fax: 
+1 (415) 738-8087<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a
href="http://rodenbaugh.com/">http://rodenbaugh.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <b>On Behalf
Of </b>Rosette, Kristina<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 08, 2010 9:22 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gomes, Chuck; KnobenW@telekom.de; MWong@piercelaw.edu<br>
<b>Cc:</b> council@gnso.icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [council] FW: [soac-discussion] FW: Communication with ACSO
on the next RTs<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Agree
w/r/t/ Whois and disagree w/r/t SSR.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Don't
believe we should be negotiating against ourselves by agreeing to two. Also, it
seems to me that the ramifications of the selectors rejecting GNSO input as to
participant number are potentially significant.  In particular, the irony
of doing so while the accountability and transparency review is underway is
pretty amazing.  I think that would play pretty well (against ICANN, that
is) in a number of important fora.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Gomes, Chuck
[mailto:cgomes@verisign.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 08, 2010 8:33 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> KnobenW@telekom.de; Rosette, Kristina; MWong@piercelaw.edu<br>
<b>Cc:</b> council@gnso.icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [council] FW: [soac-discussion] FW: Communication with ACSO
on the next RTs</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>So far, I think everyone who has commented supports Tim’s
suggestion that there should be four GNSO members on the Whois RT and most seem
to support a default of one rep per SG for all RTs.  I personally think
that we might maximize our chances of getting four on the Whois RT if we
concede to having two on the SSR RT and also think that it is fairly easy to
make a strong case for that.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The Case for Four on the Whois RT<o:p></o:p></span></u></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Whereas Internet users across the whole ICANN community are
impacted by Whois policy, I don’t think there is any doubt that GNSO
constituents are impacted the most.  It is gTLD registrants whose data is
displayed and used.  It is gTLD contracted parties who are required to
implement Whois and who best understand the customer service and operational
issues related to Whois offerings.  It is commercial gTLD registrants
whose businesses are affected when IP rights are violated.  It is
noncommercial users who have most often pointed out the need for privacy of
Whois information and noncommercial organizations that are impacted in similar
ways as commercial businesses.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>In addition, because of the GNSO’s long and belabored Whois
policy development history and varied Whois operational offerings, the GNSO has
the best source of Whois experts from various points of view.  There is
also good evidence that each SG provides a unique area of expertise and
represents different points of view with regard to Whois policy.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The Case for Two on the SSR RT</span></u><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I believe that the SSR RT requires a higher degree of technical
expertise than policy expertise and is less dependent on SG areas of
focus.  I also believe that the GNSO community as well as the ICANN
community is much more united in terms of SSR issues and hence representation
from different sectors may not necessarily produce significantly different
contributions, especially when compared to a topic like Whois. 
Particularly with regard to the GNSO, if each SG endorses one candidate for the
SSR team as proposed, I suspect that the SSR RT would not be negatively
impacted if the Selectors choose a RrSG candidate over a RySG candidate or a
NCSG candidate over a CSG candidate or any other comparison because all of us
will likely be putting forth strong security experts.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The SSR RT may be an area where external experts may be
especially helpful.  By having fewer reps from SOs and ACs, space may be
available for a few more experts.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>My Conclusion<o:p></o:p></span></u></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I suggest that I make the case for four GNSO reps on the Whois
RT and agree to two on the SSR team.  This might set a good precedent
 for asking for four on the New gTLD RT because that, like Whois, is a big
GNSO issue and one that there are clear variances in points of view from each
SG.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Chuck<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> owner-council@gnso.icann.org
[mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>KnobenW@telekom.de<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 08, 2010 7:46 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> krosette@cov.com; MWong@piercelaw.edu<br>
<b>Cc:</b> council@gnso.icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> AW: [council] FW: [soac-discussion] FW: Communication with ACSO
on the next RTs<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Regards</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <br>
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"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Von:</span></b><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> owner-council@gnso.icann.org
[mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Rosette, Kristina<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 7. Juni 2010 19:46<br>
<b>An:</b> Mary Wong<br>
<b>Cc:</b> GNSO Council<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> RE: [council] FW: [soac-discussion] FW: Communication with ACSO
on the next RTs<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <b>On Behalf
Of </b>Mary Wong<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 07, 2010 1:43 PM<br>
<b>Cc:</b> GNSO Council<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [council] FW: [soac-discussion] FW: Communication with ACSO
on the next RTs<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I agree with Tim's
arguments and suggestion for a response, and in addition support Bill's
suggestion that all RTs start with a default distribution of 1 rep per SG from
the GNSO (with deviations being explained and justified according to each RT
scope/topic).<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:purple'>Mary W
S Wong</span></strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Professor of Law
& Chair, Graduate IP Programs<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Franklin Pierce Law
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Two White Street<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Concord, NH 03301<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Email: <a
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Phone:
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Webpage: <a
href="http://www.piercelaw.edu/marywong/index.php">http://www.piercelaw.edu/marywong/index.php</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Selected
writings available on the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) at: <a
href="http://ssrn.com/author=437584">http://ssrn.com/author=437584</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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    style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>William Drake
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    style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Re: [council] FW:
    [soac-discussion] FW: Communication with ACSO on the next RTs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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  Hi<br>
  <br>
  It would be interesting to hear the rationale for reverting to the original
  proposal of tiny unrepresentative RTs.  In any event, I strongly agree
  with Tim that there really has to be four for WHOIS, the perspectives of the
  SGs are just too variable for any two to represent the others, and the whole
  process could become a focal point of controversy.  Same goes for the pending
  RT on competition and consumer issues.  As for security, I agree that
  two may be relatively less problematic, but only relatively... it's more
  difficult to judge ex ante what level of agreement there is or isn't here
  across some SGs on the various issues. <br>
  <br>
  It'd be a lot easier if they'd just default to four across the board in order
  to ensure community representation and diverse skill sets at the table,
  rather than turning RT size into a needless source of angst.<br>
  <br>
  Bill<br>
  <br>
  <br>
  On Jun 7, 2010, at 4:26 PM, Tim Ruiz wrote:<br>
  <br>
  <span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>> <br>
  > I'm not too concerned about having only two seats on the Security RT,<br>
  > but strongly oppose accepting only two seats on the Whois. <br>
  > <br>
  > It is perfectly reasonable to allow one seat each to the SSAC, GAC, and<br>
  > ASO. But I think it's totally implausible to assume a well represented<br>
  > RT with only two for the GNSO and one each for the ccNSO and the ALAC. I<br>
  > believe we make a very strong statement insisting that each of those are<br>
  > doubled - four for the GNSO (one for each SG, no less), two each for the<br>
  > ccNSO and the ALAC due to the size of their memberships. That would make<br>
  > the RT 14 members, and that is certainly workable and more realistic.<br>
  > <br>
  > I realize the ALAC and ccNSO can defend themselves, but given the<br>
  > selectors concerns over the team size I think we should respond with a<br>
  > total picture of what we think the RT should look like and why.<br>
  > <br>
  > Tim<br>
  > <br>
  > -------- Original Message --------<br>
  > Subject: [council] FW: [soac-discussion] FW: Communication with ACSO on<br>
  > the next RTs<br>
  > From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com><br>
  > Date: Fri, June 04, 2010 1:44 pm<br>
  > To: <council@gnso.icann.org><br>
  > <br>
  > Please note what the AoC Selectors have proposed for the next two RTs. <br>
  > Please provide any comments you have on this list.  Time
  permitting, we<br>
  > will also briefly discuss this in meeting on 10 June.<br>
  > <br>
  > Chuck<br>
  > <br>
  > From: owner-soac-discussion@icann.org<br>
  > [mailto:owner-soac-discussion@icann.org] On Behalf Of Janis Karklins<br>
  > Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 1:50 PM<br>
  > To: soac-discussion@icann.org<br>
  > Cc: 'Rod Beckstrom'; 'Donna Austin'; 'Olof Nordling'<br>
  > Subject: [soac-discussion] FW: Communication with ACSO on the next RTs<br>
  > <br>
  > <br>
  > <br>
  > Dear colleagues<br>
  > <br>
  > On behalf of Selectors I would like to propose that the size and<br>
  > composition of the two next review teams would be as follows:<br>
  > <br>
  >                                                   
  Security            <br>
  >  WHOIS<br>
  > GAC, including the
  Chair          
  2                             
  1<br>
  >
  GNSO                                               
  2                  
  <br>
  >         2<br>
  >
  ccNSO                                              
  2                  
  <br>
  >        1<br>
  >
  ALAC                                                
  2                 
  <br>
  >          1<br>
  >
  SSAC                                                 
  1                
  <br>
  >           1<br>
  >
  RSSAC                                              
  1<br>
  >
  ASO                                                   
  1               
  <br>
  >            
  1<br>
  > Independent
  expert                
  1-2                         
  2 (law<br>
  > enforcement/privacy experts)<br>
  >
  CEO                                                    
  1              
  <br>
  >            
  1<br>
  >                                                         
  13-14         <br>
  >              
  10<br>
  > <br>
  > I understand that your initial suggestions/requests were not fully<br>
  > accommodated, but for the sake of efficiency, credibility of the<br>
  > process, budgetary limitations Selectors have developed this proposal.<br>
  > If we would take into account all wishes, the RT size would be over 20<br>
  > which in Selectors’ view is not credible option.<br>
  > <br>
  > I hope that proposal will be equally unacceptable for everybody. I would<br>
  > appreciate your comments or expression of non-objection in coming week.<br>
  > Only after assessment of the violence of your opposition the Selectors<br>
  > will make their proposal (in present form or modified) public.<br>
  > <br>
  > Best regards<br>
  > JK<br>
  > <br>
  > <br>
  <br>
  ***********************************************************<br>
  William J. Drake<br>
  Senior Associate<br>
  Centre for International Governance<br>
  Graduate Institute of International and<br>
  Development Studies<br>
  Geneva, Switzerland<br>
  william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch<br>
  www.graduateinstitute.ch/cig/drake.html<br>
  www.linkedin.com/in/williamjdrake<br>
  ***********************************************************</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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