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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=993223521-16062010><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>As I tried to explain, the amended motion does
<U>not</U> preclude using the same process after the next two RTs. But it
doesn't cement it like some GNSO folks were feeling before.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><SPAN lang=de><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Regards</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN
lang=de><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Wolf-Ulrich</FONT></SPAN> </P>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>Von:</B> Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@verisign.com]
<BR><B>Gesendet:</B> Mittwoch, 16. Juni 2010 19:58<BR><B>An:</B> William
Drake; Rafik Dammak<BR><B>Cc:</B> Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich;
council@gnso.icann.org<BR><B>Betreff:</B> RE: [council] Motion to approve AOC
endorsement<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">As
I stated before, I prefer approving a process that could be used after the
next two RTs but if it is important for some to definitely revisit it I can
live with that. Whichever way we go, we will likely learn lessons from
our first three attempts at this. It is also possible that the RTs will
learn lessons that could result in changes to the process as well, in which
case we might want to revisit our process then anyway. When we look at
our endorsement process before the New gTLD RT, at least we won’t have to
start from scratch and we could even decide that the process worked well for
us so little else needs to be done.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Chuck<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> William Drake
[mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June
16, 2010 1:46 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Rafik Dammak<BR><B>Cc:</B> KnobenW@telekom.de;
Gomes, Chuck; council@gnso.icann.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [council] Motion
to approve AOC endorsement<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>It would be helpful to know if any other members of the
drafting team have input either way? The process and motion were the
products of a collective endeavor....<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>Bill<o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Jun 16, 2010, at 3:36 PM, Rafik Dammak
wrote:<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><BR><BR><o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>Hi,<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>I don't see why we need to define for every RT a new
process, it is quite weird to do that when in the same time we are trying to
handle with important time constraints all the ongoing PDP and it is
against any logic ( we can be flexible but there is time when we need a stable
solution IMHO). maybe the current process is not the best for some people but
changing it for each RT won't necessarily make it
better. <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt">Rafik<o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>2010/6/16 <<A
href="mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de">KnobenW@telekom.de</A>><o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Bill,</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I hope
it is not that complicated to explain and understand (see comments
inserted).</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P><SPAN lang=DE
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Regards</SPAN> <BR><SPAN
lang=DE
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Wolf-Ulrich</SPAN><SPAN
lang=DE> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><B><SPAN lang=DE
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Von:</SPAN></B><SPAN
lang=DE style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> William
Drake [mailto:<A href="mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch"
target=_blank>william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch</A>] <BR><B>Gesendet:</B>
Mittwoch, 16. Juni 2010 08:16<BR><B>An:</B> Gomes, Chuck<BR><B>Cc:</B>
Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich; <A href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org"
target=_blank>council@gnso.icann.org</A><BR><B>Betreff:</B> Re: [council]
Motion to approve AOC endorsement</SPAN><SPAN lang=DE><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Hi <o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Jun 15, 2010, at 10:46 PM, Gomes, Chuck
wrote:<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><BR><BR><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Thank
you very much for the very clear and precise red-line version Wolf and
thanks also for including my suggested
amendment.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Bill/
Caroline,</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Do
you accept these amendments as
friendly?</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><BR><BR><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>As I've said I don't particularly see limiting which
candidates we can talk about in which order as an improvement, but since the
point has elicited little comment here I'm guessing nobody else is too
concerned and I should let it go. And I like the addition of the Chuck
clause, "SG’s should only propose additional candidates that are of a
different geographical location or gender than their primary
candidate." But even so, before saying whether I accept the amendment
as friendly, I'd like to understand it, and would appreciate clarification
from CSG on the following two points:<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>First, the amendment changes <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>* "the GNSO Council formed a drafting team" to "the
GNSO formed..." <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>* "GNSO Council endorsements" to "GNSO endorsements"
and<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>* "the GNSO Council desires to adopt the AOC-RR Drafting
Team proposed process" to "the GNSO desires.."<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>This I guess is consistent with Kristina's earlier
comments that Council " has been greatly restricted in the
restructuring and the initially proposed mechanism goes beyond that role,"
and that "having a slightly more complicated process at the SG level is far
preferable to having the Council take on an SG role and make nominations
independent of the community." But per previous I don't quite get the
notion that elected representatives of SGs working together in Council are
somehow separate from and would be acting above/independent of SGs in voting
on endorsements. Does that only hold here, or is it true of any and
all Council decisions? If we adopt this language, are we collectively
establishing the premise that Council is not a representative body that can
act on behalf of its constituents? I'd think it important to be clear
what we're saying here. I understand CSG wants to talk about this
Saturday in the non-contracted house meeting, which will presumably help,
but it seems like a conversation for the wider Council and community too if
for no other reason than the Council (?) will have to vote on it.<BR><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">[WUK:
] </SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: blue"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">It
is more about the question of the council's competences. According to the
bylaws "</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: blue">The GNSO Council is responsible for
<U>managing the policy development process</U> of the GNSO". Since the
activities around the AoC could be seen as lying outside these competences
it is advisable to ascertain the GNSO as a whole endorses the process. In
other words: where the council competences are not in question we won't have
such a discussion. </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>Second, particularly as chair of the drafting team, I
would like to understand what is envisioned by striking "for all future AOC
review team selections" and limiting the mechanism to just the pending
WHOIS and SSR, since this is contrary to the prior mandate from, um, the
Council. Is the idea that the drafting team will become a permanent
body and we will have to reword things and adopt fresh processes and motions
for each RT cycle? How for example might future language be different
from what we have on the table now?<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">[WUK:
] There's no intention to permanently establish a drafting team.
But fixing the process "for all future AoC RT selections" appeared too
definitive with respect to a fast changing environment. The
amendment does not exclude the opportunity that all future AoC RTs would
follow this process.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><BR> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Would much appreciate any help getting my head around
this.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>Bill<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">***********************************************************<BR>William
J. Drake<BR>Senior Associate<BR>Centre for
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