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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>May I ask a question. While there is no consensus within VI WG, instead
of discussing administrative / procedural issues on how to report / respond to
the Board, why don’t we try to discuss main issues of WG disagreements one more
time?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>It will be very convenient to have a short summary presentation
of WG chair. To be honest, scrolling 178 pages I’ve got an expression that this
huge piece of professional work, votes on variants, reference materials… all
this just to get around some very basic facts of conflicting interests. Should
we try to get right diagnosis at least? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thank you!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>--andrei<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <b>On Behalf
Of </b>Stephane Van Gelder<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 01, 2010 11:04 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Adrian Kinderis<br>
<b>Cc:</b> tim@godaddy.com; owner-council@gnso.icann.org; KnobenW@telekom.de;
cgomes@verisign.com; council@gnso.icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: AW: [council] RE: Motion re. VI WG<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Let me be clear: I don't want to drag this on anymore than
anyone else.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>My question is: can the Council take it upon himself to call
a WG's report final and consider its work done, even though that's not what the
WG itself has reported to us?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I'm all for executive decisions, as long as they are made
within the process that's been set for the body making them.<br>
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Stéphane Van Gelder<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Directeur général / General manager<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://INDOM.com">INDOM.com</a> Noms de domaine /
Domain names<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></p>
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Le 1 oct. 2010 à 03:04, Adrian Kinderis <<a
href="mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com.au">adrian@ausregistry.com.au</a>> a
écrit :<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I
believe it was “hasn’t” and “won’t” reach consensus, which is the key part here
Stephane.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Let’s
wind it up gang.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Adrian
Kinderis</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><br>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>
[mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Stephane Van Gelder<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 1 October 2010 8:19 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:tim@godaddy.com">tim@godaddy.com</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>;
<a href="mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de">KnobenW@telekom.de</a>; <a
href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com">cgomes@verisign.com</a>; <a
href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: AW: [council] RE: Motion re. VI WG</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I
disagree. The discussion isn't on whether we end the WG or not. I was reacting
to Wolf's proposed change indicating that the WG was to submit a final report
by a set date, something which the WG has not confirmed to us.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The
only formal communication we have from them is that they haven't reached
consensus.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br>
Stéphane Van Gelder<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Directeur
général / General manager<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a
href="http://INDOM.com">INDOM.com</a> Noms de domaine / Domain names<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Sent
from my iPad<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>
Le 30 sept. 2010 à 19:35, <a href="mailto:tim@godaddy.com">tim@godaddy.com</a>
a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I
think we (the Council) have enough to go on to make a decision about it. The
very fact that they are submitting a "final" report tells us that we
either need to reconstitute this PDP under a new charter or end it all
together. This is our call at this point, not the WGs.<br>
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Tim<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>From:
</b>Stéphane Van Gelder <<a href="mailto:stephane.vangelder@indom.com">stephane.vangelder@indom.com</a>>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>Sender:
</b><a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>Date:
</b>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 15:32:38 +0200<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>To:
</b><<a href="mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de">KnobenW@telekom.de</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>Cc:
</b><<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com">cgomes@verisign.com</a>>; <<a
href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>Subject:
</b>Re: AW: [council] RE: Motion re. VI WG<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I
don't agree with your change Wolf unless it is confirmed by the WG chairs.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>My
understanding is the same as Chucks: they are currently in discussion with the
group on next steps and nothing has been decided yet.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Stéphane<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Le
30 sept. 2010 à 15:19, <<a href="mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de">KnobenW@telekom.de</a>>
a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>I've
inserted an amendment in the "Whereas..." which reflects the
co-chairs' response - as mentioned in my E-Mail earlier today and would be glad
you accept this as friendly.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Best regards</span>
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<span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Wolf-Ulrich</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Von:</span></b><span
lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>
[mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Gomes, Chuck<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 30. September 2010 14:37<br>
<b>An:</b> Gomes, Chuck; Council GNSO<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> [council] RE: Motion re. VI WG </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I
am accepting one of Adrian’s suggested amendments to this motion as friendly and
change it as highlighted in the attached file. Other suggested amendments
are welcome. Note also that a second is needed.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Chuck</span><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>
<<Motion - VI Board Response 29 Sep 10 revised 30 Sep 10.doc>> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>_____________________________________________<br>
<b>From:</b> Gomes, Chuck<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 29, 2010 1:53 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Council GNSO<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Motion re. VI WG </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <<
File: Motion - VI Board Response 29 Sep 10.doc >> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>In
response to the Board retreat resolution regarding VI and in order to meet the 8-day
advance requirement for motions, I am submitting this motion and would
appreciate a second. Please forward this to your SGs and constituencies
to determine support for the motion on 7 October.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I
am not opposed to other ways of accomplishing this, but thought that a motion
is a clear way to kick it off.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Chuck</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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- VI Board Response 29 Sep 10 revised 30 Sep 10 -WUK amend.doc><o:p></o:p></p>
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