<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi<div><div><br></div><div><div><div>On Nov 17, 2010, at 3:16 PM, Gomes, Chuck wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Bill,<br><br>Please see the attached email message that I sent to the Council list.<br>Note that I mentioned this in the 28 October Council meeting and<br>forwarded Liz's paper shortly thereafter. </blockquote><div><br></div>My bad, didn't resonate </div><div><br><blockquote type="cite">Because of the 15 November<br>deadline for agendas and related documents for Cartagena meetings, we<br>could not wait until the 18 November meeting.<br><br>In a subsequent email message I communicated that both Chris and Heather<br>are supportive of the topic and forwarded Liz's paper to their groups.<br><br>Detailed agendas and questions are still to be developed. Your<br>suggestions will be helpful in that regard.<br></blockquote><div><br></div>Thanks. They seem like rather different conversations, and the list of issues to consider on the procedural question dwarfs previous agendas for the hour. But if people are interested, splitting the time might spice things up a little…</div><div><br></div><div>Best</div><div><br></div><div>Bill</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><br><br><blockquote type="cite">-----Original Message-----<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">From: William Drake [mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch]<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 8:23 AM<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">To: Gomes, Chuck<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Cc: GNSO Council List<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Subject: Re: [council] GNSO-GAC meeting in Cartagena<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Hi Chuck,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">On Nov 17, 2010, at 1:48 PM, Gomes, Chuck wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Bill,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Your suggestions fit nicely into the topic that has already been<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">selected by all three groups (GNSO, GAC & ccNSO)<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Thanks, I must have missed this conversation; happily, I'm not alone<br></blockquote>in<br><blockquote type="cite">that. When did the Council discuss this?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">based on the paper that<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Liz produced regarding what needs to be done in the future regarding<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">community WGs. It seems natural to me to talk about successes and<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">failures of the Rec6 CWG and the JAS WG as we explore how we<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">facilitate<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">CWGs going forward.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Ok, but I wasn't suggesting a discussion about the procedural aspects<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">of CWGs (although some time on that would be good too), but rather<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">about the substantive issues and proposals involved in these two<br></blockquote>cases.<br><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Where's the topic specified, do we have a list of discussion questions<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">per previous?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Thanks much,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Bill<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">-----Original Message-----<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">From: <a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a> [mailto:owner-<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of William Drake<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 7:37 AM<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">To: GNSO Council List<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Subject: [council] GNSO-GAC meeting in Cartagena<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Hi<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On tomorrow's call we are to discuss "6.2 Topic(s) for Joint<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">meetings<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">with the GAC & ccNSO"<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">We've just had two intensive and successful group collaborations on<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">questions of particular interest to the GAC, namely Rec. 6/former<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">MAPO<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">and JAS/applicant support. Wouldn't it be helpful to hear GAC<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">perspectives and engage in some dialogue with them on a) the<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>outputs<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">of<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">these groups, and how well they speak to concerns GAC has raised in<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">the<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">past, and b) how those outputs should be dealt with going forward?<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Given all the efforts expended and the pressing need to settle this<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">stuff to the community's satisfaction, one would think this is the<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">best<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">way we could use the time. Unless of course we'd prefer to talk<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">about<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">categories :-)<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Thoughts?<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Best,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Bill<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">***********************************************************<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">William J. Drake<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Senior Associate<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Centre for International Governance<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Graduate Institute of International and<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Development Studies<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Geneva, Switzerland<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch">william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch</a><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://www.williamdrake.org">www.williamdrake.org</a><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">***********************************************************<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">***********************************************************<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">William J. Drake<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Senior Associate<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Centre for International Governance<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Graduate Institute of International and<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> Development Studies<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Geneva, Switzerland<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch">william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://www.williamdrake.org">www.williamdrake.org</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">***********************************************************<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><br><br><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);"><b>From: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">"Gomes, Chuck" <<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com">cgomes@verisign.com</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">October 29, 2010 4:25:26 AM GMT+02:00<br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);"><b>To: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><b>[council] FW: [gnso-chairs] draft discussion paper on cross-SO/AC working groups</b><br></span></div><br><br>As I briefly mentioned in our meeting earlier today, a possible topic for discussion with the GAC and ccNSO in our joint meetings with them in Cartagena is the topic of procedures for joint SO/AC working groups or community working groups. As you can see by Liz's email below, I requested that Staff prepare a paper listing some of the issues that might need to be considered in that regard. Please review this and share any comments you have and provide any opinions you have about suggesting this topic to the GAC and ccNSO. If there are any objections to suggesting this as a topic for either joint meeting, please let me know by Wednesday of next week. If there are none, I will suggest the topic to Heather and Chris and send the attached discussion document as well.<br><br><br><br>Thanks to Liz and any other staff members who helped develop the discussion paper.<br><br><br><br>Chuck<br><br><br><br>From: <a href="mailto:owner-gnso-chairs@icann.org">owner-gnso-chairs@icann.org</a> [mailto:owner-gnso-chairs@icann.org] On Behalf Of Liz Gasster<br>Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 5:23 PM<br>To: <a href="mailto:gnso-chairs@icann.org">gnso-chairs@icann.org</a><br>Subject: [gnso-chairs] draft discussion paper on cross-SO/AC working groups<br><br><br><br>All,<br><br><br><br>On the last chairs call, Chuck suggested that it might be useful to encourage discussion between the GNSO Council and the ccNSO and GAC (and ALAC...) about the benefits and potential issues associated with cross-SO/AC working groups and whether/how their role might be better defined in the future. To stimulate that discussion, we prepared the attached draft at Chuck's request. <br><br><br><br>The questions are just suggestions, we have not yet engaged in any internal consultation, and we do think it will be important to consult with the General Counsel's office to solicit their input and guidance.<br><br><br><br>Please let us know if this is what you had in mind, and if you would like anything further.<br><br><br><br>Thanks, Liz<br><br><span><Cross SO AC policy discussion.docx></span><br><br></blockquote></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><br></div></span></div></span></div></span></span>
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