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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap: break-word;-webkit-nbsp-mode: space;-webkit-line-break: after-white-space'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks Bill. We will vote on Debbie’s amendment. Please note that I simply responded to Tijani’s message noting that the purpose of the amendment as I understood it was to modify the charter.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Chuck<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> William Drake [mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 18, 2010 5:54 AM<br><b>To:</b> Gomes, Chuck<br><b>Cc:</b> zahid@dndrc.com; HughesDeb@usa.redcross.org; owner-council@gnso.icann.org; rafik.dammak@gmail.com; council@gnso.icann.org; Glen<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [council] JAS WG charter extension motion<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Chuck<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>As I understand things, Rafik was introducing the motion on behalf of the JAS, and when he sent Debbie's proposed amendment to the JAS list you and Tijani expressed concern that it might go beyond the charter. Therefore he informed Debbie that he did not have JAS consensus to view it as friendly. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Bill<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Nov 18, 2010, at 11:18 AM, Gomes, Chuck wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks Debbie for proposing this amendment and Zahid for your expressed support. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Rafik and Bill – Do you support it as a friendly amendment?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Chuck</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;border-width:initial;border-color:initial'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-width:initial;border-color:initial'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Zahid Jamil [mailto:zahid@dndrc.com]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Wednesday, November 17, 2010 11:43 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:HughesDeb@usa.redcross.org">HughesDeb@usa.redcross.org</a>;<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>;<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a>; Glen; Gomes, Chuck<br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [council] JAS WG charter extension motion</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I would also support this amendment.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p><br>Sincerely,<br><br>Zahid Jamil<br>Barrister-at-law<br>Jamil & Jamil<br>Barristers-at-law<br>219-221 Central Hotel Annexe<br>Merewether Road, Karachi. Pakistan<br>Cell: +923008238230<br>Tel: +92 21 5680760 / 5685276 / 5655025<br>Fax: +92 21 5655026<br><a href="http://www.jamilandjamil.com/">www.jamilandjamil.com</a><br><br><br>*** This Message Has Been Sent Using BlackBerry Internet Service from Mobilink ***<o:p></o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b><<a href="mailto:HughesDeb@usa.redcross.org">HughesDeb@usa.redcross.org</a>><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>Sender:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b><a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>Date:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Wed, 17 Nov 2010 18:46:24 -0500<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>To:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b><<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>Cc:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b><<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a>>; <<a href="mailto:Glen@icann.org">Glen@icann.org</a>>; <<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com">cgomes@verisign.com</a>><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>Subject:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>RE: [council] JAS WG charter extension motion<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Rafik,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>I definitely support the work of the JAS working group and submitted comments to that effect when the initial report was published. Thanks for your efforts and those of the WG!</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>I was wondering if you would consider a friendly amendment to your Motion for JAS WG charter extension. I would like to add the concept of bundling applications for multiple IDN scripts in small or underserved languages, at discounted fees.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Rationale: For example, a multinational organization could consider multiple IDN scripts (like Arabic or Korean) to connect with a community in their native language. At $185,000 per application, that becomes very cost prohibitive, especially for a NGOs that may want to use the string to deliver services and not monetize the string for profits. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>In my reading of the report, it seems the WG considered bundling applications for multiple IDN scripts at discounted fees. (See “Support for Build-out in Underserved Languages and Scripts<b>”</b> Item 2.2.1)</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>So, would you consider a friendly amendment adding the following objective to the list provided in the Motion?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>“Design mechanisms to encourage the build out of Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs) in small or underserved languages.”</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Debbie</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Debra Y. Hughes</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></b></span><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>l</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></b></span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Senior Counsel</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='color:blue'> </span></span><span style='color:blue'><br></span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>American Red Cross</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Office of the General Counsel </span><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:blue'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:blue'><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>2025 E Street, NW<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:blue'><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Washington, D.C. 20006<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:blue'><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Phone: (202) 303-5356<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:blue'><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Fax: (202) 303-0143</span><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:blue'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:blue'><br><a href="mailto:HughesDeb@usa.redcross.org"><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>HughesDeb@usa.redcross.org</span></a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Rafik Dammak<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Wednesday, November 17, 2010 10:09 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Adrian Kinderis<br><b>Cc:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Council GNSO; Glen de Saint Géry; Gomes, Chuck<br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [council] JAS WG charter extension motion</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Adrian,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>thank you for your interest,<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>for clarification, an applicant won't necessary apply or/and have all kind of support.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>1- it respect cost-recovery principle and we will work with the new gTLD program staff to accommodate that (Chuck amendment). We will work on topic of <b>external</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>sources of donors or foundations willing to support financially applicants. <br>2- yes, we didn't state exceptions for applicants regarding those requirements, assistance or support can be technical (from various service providers etc) or financial ( subsidized from external sources). the WG will work to figure out how this could best be done.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>3- translation of material etc but not necessarily by ICANN, again the WG will work to figure out how it can be done<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>as you see the WG will work to explore how things will be done (guidelines)<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <br>Regards<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Rafik<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>2010/11/17 Adrian Kinderis <<a href="mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com.au" target="_blank">adrian@ausregistry.com.au</a>><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Rafik,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I have been reviewing the work of the JAS WG.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>It is all good work that is deserved of our attention.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>However, I have read the various Board resolutions that were the genesis of the working. The original notion was developed in order to provide<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><i>support to applicants.</i></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Is it fair to say that, in your mind (or the WG’s for that matter), the following will be true given the support regime as you would have it;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>- a new gTLD applicant will have to pay the application fee in its entirety but will be subsidized through a foundation or external parties?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>- a new gTLD applicant will have to establish a Registry System to full and ‘standard’ ICANN compliance but may be subsidized in order to cover the costs associated?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>- ICANN may provide assistance in preparing the application for those where English is not a first language</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Can you clarify this for me so I can take this back to my SG? Thanks.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Adrian Kinderis</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-width:initial;border-color:initial'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[mailto:<a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Rafik Dammak<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Thursday, November 11, 2010 3:01 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Council GNSO; Glen de Saint Géry; Gomes, Chuck<br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[council] JAS WG charter extension motion</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hello,<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I want to submit this motion for JAS WG charter extension in response to ICANN board resolution about supporting applicants and for completion a list of further work items.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Regards<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Rafik<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>***********************************************************<br>William J. Drake<br>Senior Associate<br>Centre for International Governance<br>Graduate Institute of International and<br> Development Studies<br>Geneva, Switzerland<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch">william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch</a><br>www.williamdrake.org<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:13.5pt'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>***********************************************************<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>