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<body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=blue>I would also support this amendment.<p> <br/>Sincerely,<br/><br/>Zahid Jamil<br/>Barrister-at-law<br/>Jamil & Jamil<br/>Barristers-at-law<br/>219-221 Central Hotel Annexe<br/>Merewether Road, Karachi. Pakistan<br/>Cell: +923008238230<br/>Tel: +92 21 5680760 / 5685276 / 5655025<br/>Fax: +92 21 5655026<br/>www.jamilandjamil.com<br/><br/><br/>*** This Message Has Been Sent Using BlackBerry Internet Service from Mobilink ***</p><hr/><div><b>From: </b> <HughesDeb@usa.redcross.org>
</div><div><b>Sender: </b> owner-council@gnso.icann.org
</div><div><b>Date: </b>Wed, 17 Nov 2010 18:46:24 -0500</div><div><b>To: </b><rafik.dammak@gmail.com></div><div><b>Cc: </b><council@gnso.icann.org>; <Glen@icann.org>; <cgomes@verisign.com></div><div><b>Subject: </b>RE: [council] JAS WG charter extension motion</div><div><br/></div>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Rafik,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>I definitely
support the work of the JAS working group and submitted comments to that effect
when the initial report was published. Thanks for your efforts and those
of the WG!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>I was wondering if
you would consider a friendly amendment to your Motion for JAS WG charter
extension. I would like to add the concept of bundling applications for
multiple IDN scripts in small or underserved languages, at discounted fees. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Rationale:
For example, a multinational organization could consider multiple IDN scripts
(like Arabic or Korean) to connect with a community in their native
language. At $185,000 per application, that becomes very cost
prohibitive, especially for a NGOs that may want to use the string to deliver
services and not monetize the string for profits. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>In my reading of
the report, it seems the WG considered bundling applications for multiple IDN
scripts at discounted fees. (See “Support for Build-out in
Underserved Languages and Scripts<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>”</span></b> Item
2.2.1)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>So, would you
consider a friendly amendment adding the following objective to the list
provided in the Motion?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><font
size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-weight:bold'>“Design
mechanisms to encourage the build out of Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs)
in small or underserved languages.”</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Thanks,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Debbie</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Rafik Dammak<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, November 17, 2010
10:09 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Adrian Kinderis<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Council GNSO; Glen de Saint
Géry; Gomes, Chuck<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [council] JAS WG
charter extension motion</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Hi Adrian,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>thank you for your interest,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>for clarification, an applicant won't necessary apply or/and have all
kind of support.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>1- it respect cost-recovery principle and we will work with the new gTLD
program staff to accommodate that (Chuck amendment). We will
work on topic of <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>external</span></b>
sources of donors or foundations willing to support financially applicants.
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2- yes, we didn't state exceptions for applicants regarding those
requirements, assistance or support can be technical (from
various service providers etc) or financial ( subsidized from
external sources). the WG will work to figure out how this could best be
done.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>3- translation of material etc but not necessarily by ICANN, again the
WG will work to figure out how it can be done<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>as you see the WG will work to explore how things will be done
(guidelines)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <br>
Regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Rafik<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>2010/11/17 Adrian Kinderis <<a
href="mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com.au" target="_blank">adrian@ausregistry.com.au</a>><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
color:#1F497D'>Rafik,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
color:#1F497D'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
color:#1F497D'>I have been reviewing the work of the JAS WG.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
color:#1F497D'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
color:#1F497D'>It is all good work that is deserved of our attention.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
color:#1F497D'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
color:#1F497D'>However, I have read the various Board resolutions that were the
genesis of the working. The original notion was developed in order to provide <i><span
style='font-style:italic'>support to applicants.</span></i> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
color:#1F497D'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
color:#1F497D'>Is it fair to say that, in your mind (or the WG’s for that
matter), the following will be true given the support regime as you would have
it;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
color:#1F497D'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
color:#1F497D'>- a new gTLD applicant will have to pay the application fee in
its entirety but will be subsidized through a foundation or external parties?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
color:#1F497D'>- a new gTLD applicant will have to establish a Registry System
to full and ‘standard’ ICANN compliance but may be subsidized in
order to cover the costs associated?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
color:#1F497D'>- ICANN may provide assistance in preparing the application for
those where English is not a first language</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
color:#1F497D'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
color:#1F497D'>Can you clarify this for me so I can take this back to my SG?
Thanks.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
color:#1F497D'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;font-weight:bold'>Adrian Kinderis</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Rafik Dammak<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, November 11, 2010
3:01 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Council GNSO; Glen de Saint
Géry; Gomes, Chuck<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [council] JAS WG charter
extension motion</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I want to submit
this motion for JAS WG charter extension in response to ICANN board resolution
about supporting applicants and for completion a list of further work items.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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