Hi,<br>thanks Chuck for a very complete summary of the different scenarios that the new GNSO leaders election may bring.<br>I would be willing to work together with Stéphane in submitting a plan for council consideration as there are several aspects that should be considered and the constructive vision of both houses representatives is relevant.<br>
This plan could be used also as input for OSC / GCOT work on this matter.<br>Best regards<br>Olga<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/11/26 Stéphane Van Gelder <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stephane.vangelder@indom.com">stephane.vangelder@indom.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word;">Thanks Chuck.<div><br></div><div>I'd like to propose an initial suggestion that as each Councillor's term starts at the end of the AGM, it may make sense to link the Council Leaders' terms to that.</div>
<div><br></div><div>In this instance, it would mean that you would serve until the end of the Cartagena meeting and then hand over to the Chair or VCs, depending upon the election results.</div><div><br></div><div>This is just a first step proposal to get us through this upcoming meeting. But I think that going forward, the procedures need to be refined so that there are clear guidelines in place.</div>
<div><br></div><div>For example, last year we made the switch to the new Council Leadership team during the Council Open meeting. In some ways that is a good solution because it means that those in the community attending the AGM can put a face behind the names of the new leaders. Bearing in mind that we could have instances when the new Chairs and VCs are also new to the Council, this may be helpful. On the other hand, if they are new, and therefore relatively inexperienced in the way the Council works, they may feel uncomfortable at being "thrown in the deep end" in this way...</div>
<div><br></div><div>So it's clear that there are a lot of aspects of these procedures that need to be looked at. It seems like we need to agree on a way forward for Cartagena, and then ask the OSC and the GCOT to work on them in detail so that come next year, these issues do not reappear.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Stéphane</div><div><br></div><div><br>
<br><div><div>Le 26 nov. 2010 à 20:24, Gomes, Chuck a écrit :</div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><blockquote type="cite">
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<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">In our ongoing saga of applying the new GNSO Operating Procedures</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> (GOP)</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> we have identified another missing ingredient: Neither the</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> Bylaws nor the GOP define the</font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">exact terms for Council</font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">c</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">hair and</font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">v</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">ice</font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">c</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">hairs. T</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">h</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">e Bylaws define the terms for Councilor</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">s as beginning and ending at the end of the ICANN Annual General Meeting, but no such clarification is given for the chair and vice chairs.</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> So we have another task for the OSC/GCOT.</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">In the meantime,</font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">we have a decision in front of us as to when we should transition to the newly elected chair.</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> With the lack of detail in the Bylaws and GOP, I am assuming that this is a decision that the Council should make for Cartagena. I want to state right up</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> front that I am comfortable with whatever is decided and will fully cooperate to make it happen.</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">Following</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"></font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">is some information that may be helpful.</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">As far as I can tell the</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">only direction that may be even indirectly applicable in</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri"> the Bylaws from Article X</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> is this</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">:</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Symbol">·<font face="Courier New"> </font></font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">“. . .</font></span><span lang="en-us"> the regular term of each GNSO Council member shall begin at the conclusion of an ICANN annual meeting and shall end at the conclusion of the second ICANN annual meeting thereafter</span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">” (paragraph 2)</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Symbol">·<font face="Courier New"> </font></font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">“</font></span><span lang="en-us">The GNSO Council shall select the GNSO Chair for a term the GNSO Council specifies, but not longer than one year.</span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">” (paragraph 7)</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Symbol">·<font face="Courier New"> </font></font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">“</font></span><span lang="en-us">The procedures for selecting the Chair and any other officers are contained in the GNSO Operating Procedures. In the event that the GNSO Council has not elected a GNSO Chair by the end of the previous Chair's term, the Vice-Chairs will serve as Interim GNSO Co-Chairs until a successful election can be held.</span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">” (paragraph 7)</font></span></p>
<div><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span><br></div><p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">Assuming that the procedures will be fixed</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">in the next few months, I believe our only concern at this time is what we should do in Cartagena. </font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">Focusing on the round of voting that is now underway,</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">w</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">e have several</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">scenarios that are possible</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> (see GOP Section 2.2)</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">:</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">1. </font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">If at</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> least 60% of each house selects</font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">‘</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">none of the above</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">’</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">, then each house initiates a new nomination period and</font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">a new election will be held no sooner than 30 days after the unsuccessful vote.</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">2. </font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">If b</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">oth Olga and Stéphane</font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">receive the same</font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">total</font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">percentage of votes</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> from both houses</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> or</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"></font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">if one of them a higher total percentage than the other but ties with</font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">‘</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">none of the above</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">’</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">,</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> a</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"></font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">second</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> election will be held no sooner than 30 days with the candidates remaining</font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">the</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> same</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">.</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">3. </font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">If e</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">ither Olga or Sté</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">phane is elected chair in the first round of voting</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> (i.e., receives at least 60% support from each house)</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">, we will have elected a new chair prior to the Cartagena meeting.</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">4. </font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">If neither candidate receives</font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">60% support from both houses and</font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">o</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">ne of</font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">them</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> receives</font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">a higher</font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">score than the other (score</font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">= % of votes in CPH + % of votes in the NCPH),</font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">a second round of voting</font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">will be held</font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">between</font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">the</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> one with the highest score</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"></font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">and</font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">‘</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">none of the above</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">’</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">:</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">a. </font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">I</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">f the remaining candidate receive</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">s 60% support from both houses, we have a successful election.</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">b. </font> <font face="Calibri">If</font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">the remaining candidate does not rea</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">ch the 60% threshold of each house,</font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">then each house initiates a new nomination period and</font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">a new election will be held no sooner than 30 days after the unsuccessful vote</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">.</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span></p>
<div><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span><br></div><p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">In scenarios 1,</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">2 and 4.b, we will not know who the new chair is in Cartagena and</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">the</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> vice chairs will assume the leadership of the Council until such time as we have a new</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">chair. But note that the new vice chairs cannot take over their vice chair roles if they are not yet on the Council because the vice chairs have to be</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">Councilors. It looks very much like this will actually be the case for the CPH.</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">In scenario 3</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">, it would be feasible to transfer the chair position to the new chair at whatever point the Council decides.</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> In scenario</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">4.a, if the second round of voting results in the election of the chair before or in Cartagena, it would be possible to transfer the chair position to the new chair</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">at whatever point the Council decides after we have a successful election; if not, then we will not know who the new chair is in Cartagena</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">.</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">I think it is best for me to stay on the sidelines on this issue ex</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">cept for trying to help from a procedural point of view. </font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">But I would like to ask Olga and Stéphane</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">to propose a way forward on this</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"></font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">for Council consideration and want to strongly encourage them to not worry the least about my feel</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">ings.</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> Like I said above, I am comfortable with whatever is decided</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> as long as we have a defined plan that complies with the Bylaws and provides a smooth transition.</font></span></p>
<div><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span><br></div><p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">Olga & Stéphane</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Calibri">–</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> Are willing to work together to do this and submit a proposed plan to the Council for consideration?</font></span></p>
<p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">Chuck</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span></p><div><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span><br></div><div><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span><br>
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