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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=285251709-02122010><FONT face="Segoe UI">my
point in this context is "responsibility".</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face="Segoe UI">Terminating working teams and SC's before they could finish the
work appropriately and taking over this unfinished work by the council and new
committees appears as changing the horses during a galop.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=285251709-02122010>New teams don't feel
responsible for the (almost) result of the existing ones as well as they need
time to organize themthelves. As a member of the OSC and several (too many?)
working teams I can state that the so far active participants in those teams
show a very high level of responsibility even with respect to the implementation
of the team recommendations.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=285251709-02122010><FONT face="Segoe UI">As
most of the recommendations are compromise solutions with regards to the details
it is essential to test their practicability. The teams are keen on learning
from this and to come up with improvements along the council's direction. There
is no question about "teams to review themselves" rather than looking to whether
their tasks have been fulfilled to the council's satisfaction and to adjust
what goes wrong.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=285251709-02122010><FONT face="Segoe UI">I'm sharing Jeffs
(welcome as newly elected VC!) view to encourage better participation
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<FONT face=Tahoma><B>Von:</B> owner-council@gnso.icann.org
[mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <B>Im Auftrag von </B>Mary
Wong<BR><B>Gesendet:</B> Donnerstag, 2. Dezember 2010 03:46<BR><B>Cc:</B>
council@gnso.icann.org<BR><B>Betreff:</B> Re: [council] Proposed amendment to
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<DIV>Hi Wendy,</DIV>
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<DIV>Yes, my proposal would terminate the PPSC and OSC charters in
Cartagena.</DIV>
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<DIV>I should add that, in relation to Jeff's and others' points about ongoing
work, particularly for the PDP WT, I would be happy to discuss alternative
deliverable dates for specific WTs, in case the San Francisco
meeting is unrealistic for one or more teams. My proposal was in no way meant
to artificially conclude the implementation process, but merely to streamline
Council management of it overall.</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks and cheers</DIV>
<DIV>Mary<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#800080>Mary W S Wong</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><EM>Professor of Law</EM></DIV>
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<TD>Wendy Seltzer <wendy@seltzer.com></TD></TR>
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<TD>"Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com></TD></TR>
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<TD>Mary Wong <Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu>,
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<TD><STRONG>Date: </STRONG></TD>
<TD>12/1/2010 5:27 PM</TD></TR>
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<TD>Re: [council] Proposed amendment to OSC & PPSC
motion</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR>I'm hoping for further discussion on
the list before considering<BR>possibly-friendly amendments.<BR><BR>As I
see it, we've heard three options:<BR>* extend the PPSC and OSC charters
through San Francisco (Chuck)<BR>* permit the charters to terminate as
scheduled (Wendy)<BR>* request concluding reports and create a Standing
Committee (Mary)<BR><BR><BR>Mary, would your proposed first RESOLVED
still terminate the PPSC and<BR>OSC charters in Cartagena?<BR><BR>I
support creating a Standing Committee, and appreciate Jeff's
and<BR>others' suggestions on how to make that work effectively. Unless
that<BR>would change anyone's pro vote to con, I would take Mary's
second<BR>RESOLVED as friendly.<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>--Wendy<BR><BR>On
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Thanks Mary. I also thought of combining the motions but for now
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From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org]
On Behalf Of Mary Wong</SPAN><SPAN
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Subject: RE: [council] Proposed amendment to OSC & PPSC
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(1) I actually borrowed (er, copied :) the first resolve clause from
Chuck's original motion, as I agree it's important to wrap up the
improvements process and we'll need clear and specific indicators of
what remains due and when in order to do so. If it would have been more
appropriate to propose my amendment as an amendment to Chuck's rather
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(2) The intent was NOT to add an extra layer; rather, it was to reduce
duplication and delay by having the Council take over from where the OSC
and PPSC are now. My reasons for this include (i) the need to wrap
things up as mentioned already; (ii) the risk of further delay if we
keep referring things back to the OSC/PPSC to then pass on to individual
work teams, for funneling back to us; (iii) the resulting inefficiencies
once the Council discovers certain procedures or recommendations to be
unworkable, thus resulting in yet another go-around; and (iv) the need
for the Council to step in and exercise a true managerial function,
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(3) On that last point, there had been consensus around creating a
Standing Committee that would NOT be the equivalent of the OSC and/or
PPSC. The Standing Committee would (i) assist the Council in its review
work; (ii) review at the Council's request existing processes (as it
would not be appropriate for those who drafted the procedures to be
reviewing themselves!); and (iii) if necessary and/or requested by the
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As to the question of whether the Council will be less busy and/or pay
more critical attention now than perhaps some of us did before, I hope
so. The incidents we have already raised must mean we need to, and I
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"Mary Wong" <Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu></SPAN><SPAN
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RE: [council] Proposed amendment to OSC & PPSC motion</SPAN><SPAN
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I want to point out that the motion I made to extend the PPSC and OSC
charters was very similar to the first resolve of Mary’s proposed
amendment with regard to timing. It also only extended the
charters to the San Francisco meeting and that was done consciously by
me because I also believe that we need to wrap up the GNSO improvements
work quickly. And I personally support directing “each steering
committee and applicable work team chair to identify for the Council any
remaining targets and benchmarks for their respective work by no later
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Recognizing that the RySG has not discussed this yet, I have concerns
about the second resolve because I like Tim believe it will result in
duplication of effort and inefficiency. We have three layers now;
we would have four then. Finally, asking the Council to be more
directly involved seems to me something that should already be the
case. The Council approved the procedures that we are now so
concerned about. The excuse is that we were all too busy. Is
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From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org]
On Behalf Of Mary Wong</SPAN><SPAN
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Subject: [council] Proposed amendment to OSC & PPSC
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In view of the additional information supplied by Julie, Liz and Philip,
but considering also Wendy's and others' points relating to the
workability of the current GNSO processes, I hereby propose the
following amendment to Wendy's motion. Fundamentally, I believe it's
time, and necessary, for the Council now to assume direct responsibility
for reviewing the deliverables from the PPSC and OSC as well as the
respective work teams. In this, the Council should be assisted by the
Standing Committee that was supposed to have been formed some time ago.
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Of course, this would not preclude either the Council or the Standing
Committee from consulting the teams and committees that drafted and
reviewed the original language and processes; it's just that - with the
amount of projects we are facing and the concerns already expressed over
both the Council's role and the workability of the new GNSO rules and
procedures, the seemingly-endless rounds of discussion, interpretation,
delegation, referral and redrafting has to stop somewhere and that
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So, here goes - keeping the original WHEREAS clauses, I suggest the
following RESOLVED clauses to the OSC and PPSC charter motion. I hope
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"RESOLVED, the Council acknowledges and thanks the OSC, the PPSC and the
five community work teams for their hard work; and directs each steering
committee and applicable work team chair to identify for the Council any
remaining targets and benchmarks for their respective work by no later
than 19 January 2011, with a view toward final delivery to the Council
of any remaining work items so identified by no later than the San
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FURTHER RESOLVED, a Standing Committee to monitor implementation of GNSO
Improvements shall be established no later than 19 January 2011. The
Standing Committee will work with the Council to review and, if
necessary, convene relevant work teams to refine and streamline, the
effectiveness of GNSO Improvements on an ongoing basis."</SPAN><SPAN
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August 30, 2010, Franklin Pierce Law Center has affiliated with the University
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