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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=120290016-02122010><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Rafik,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=120290016-02122010><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>it doesn't make me happy since it may generate duplicated
efforts regarding the same topic which is not very
effective.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=120290016-02122010><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Let's talk about this in Cartagena.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN lang=de><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Best regards</FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN lang=de><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Wolf-Ulrich</FONT></SPAN>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>Von:</B> Rafik Dammak
[mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com] <BR><B>Gesendet:</B> Donnerstag, 2. Dezember
2010 15:21<BR><B>An:</B> Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich<BR><B>Cc:</B>
council@gnso.icann.org<BR><B>Betreff:</B> Re: [council] Motion for JAS WG
charter extension<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>Hello,
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>we may offer other rewording that respond to Wolf-Ulrich remarks:</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>"<SPAN class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse">c)
Establishing a framework for consideration by the chartering organizations and
the community at large that deals with methods where by any moneys raised for
the purposes of support of new gTLD applicants. This framework could
include a possible recommendation for a separate ICANN originated
foundation. As the recommendations made by the Support for New gTLD
Applicants also include a proposed use for surplus auction income,
beyond costs. for future rounds and ongoing assistance, this framework could
include a proposal for disposition of these fund, realizing however, the the
use of surplus auction funds is a wider community topic and may include other
proposals for the use of such funds."</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face="arial, sans-serif"><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
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<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face="arial, sans-serif"><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse">what do you
think?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face="arial, sans-serif"><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face="arial, sans-serif"><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse">Regards</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face="arial, sans-serif"><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face="arial, sans-serif"><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse">Rafik<BR></SPAN></FONT><BR><BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>2010/12/2 <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de">KnobenW@telekom.de</A>></SPAN><BR>
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<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>All,</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>I'd like to amend the "Motion for
JAS WG charter extension" as follows:</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>Remove "Resolved 1. c)
Establishing a framework (for consideration etcetera,) including a possible
recommendation for a separate ICANN originated foundation, for managing any
auction income, beyond costs. for future rounds and ongoing
assistance;"</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2><SPAN></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN>Rationale: </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><SPAN><FONT
size=2><SPAN></SPAN></FONT></SPAN><SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2>First, I'm convinced
the community and ICANN have to be prepared how to manage
any potential new gTLD auction profit.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2>As usual in case
profit is available one can expect many interested community groups
expressing their needs to share that profit where new applicants are one
group of it. In addition parts of the overall ICANN program could also
profit from that fund (e.g. outreach program<SPAN>, </SPAN><SPAN>DNS
security </SPAN>etc.).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2>So my reservations to
this topic being covered by the JAS
group<SPAN> only </SPAN>are:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2>- it is a too large
area for the JAS and would go far beyond their originally intended
scope</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2>- there are lots of
more urgent tasks for this WG as laid down in the new draft charter.
Handling the potential auction profit is of lower priority<SPAN> on the
timescale </SPAN>.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2>- as per definition
the JAS view is applicant oriented that would cause an
imbalance</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2>As I pointed out in
former e-mails the JAS could express the new applicants' general interest in
taking part in the distribution of the potential auction
profit.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><SPAN>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><BR><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>I suggest to
initiate discussion on council level how to cover this topic separately and
appropriately.<BR><SPAN><FONT
color=#0000ff> </FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left></DIV></SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN>I'm
in agreement with all other items in the charter<SPAN> and
woul</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN>d be happy if <SPAN>the amendment</SPAN> could
be accepted <SPAN>as friendly </SPAN>.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>Save travels
to Cartagena</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SPAN lang=de><FONT
size=2>Wolf-Ulrich </FONT></SPAN> </FONT></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>Von:</B> Rafik Dammak [mailto:<A
href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com"
target=_blank>rafik.dammak@gmail.com</A>] <BR><B>Gesendet:</B> Mittwoch,
1. Dezember 2010 20:58<BR><B>An:</B> Knoben,
Wolf-Ulrich<BR><B>Betreff:</B> regarding your
amendment<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>Hi Wolf-Ulrich,
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>regarding your comment last time about JAS motion, I would like to
know what are the reasons for asking to remove the 1.c . I think that we
should find a better and constructive compromise.what do you
think?</DIV>
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<DIV>Regards</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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