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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=345212617-04122010><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>To my understanding, we'll discuss this at 2:45 p.m., see
agenda</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><SPAN lang=de><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Wolf-Ulrich
</FONT></SPAN></P><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>Von:</B> Adrian Kinderis
[mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com.au] <BR><B>Gesendet:</B> Samstag, 4. Dezember
2010 17:27<BR><B>An:</B> Rafik Dammak; Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich<BR><B>Cc:</B>
council@gnso.icann.org<BR><B>Betreff:</B> RE: [council] Motion for JAS WG
charter extension<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Will
we get a chance to discuss this prior to the Public Meeting on
Wednesday?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Is
there an opportunity over the next two days to discuss any current
motions?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN lang=EN-AU
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Adrian
Kinderis</SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-AU
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><BR><BR><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Rafik Dammak<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:21
AM<BR><B>To:</B> KnobenW@telekom.de<BR><B>Cc:</B>
council@gnso.icann.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [council] Motion for JAS WG
charter extension<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>Hello,<o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>we may offer other rewording that respond to Wolf-Ulrich
remarks:<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>"<SPAN class=apple-style-span><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">c) Establishing a
framework for consideration by the chartering organizations and the community
at large that deals with methods where by any moneys raised for the purposes
of support of new gTLD applicants. This framework could include a
possible recommendation for a separate ICANN originated foundation. As
the recommendations made by the Support for New gTLD Applicants also
include a proposed use for surplus auction income, beyond costs. for future
rounds and ongoing assistance, this framework could include a proposal for
disposition of these fund, realizing however, the the use of surplus auction
funds is a wider community topic and may include other proposals for the use
of such funds."</SPAN></SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=apple-style-span><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">what do you
think?</SPAN></SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=apple-style-span><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Regards</SPAN></SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN
class=apple-style-span><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Rafik</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><BR></SPAN><BR><BR><o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>2010/12/2 <<A
href="mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de">KnobenW@telekom.de</A>><o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">All,</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I'd like to amend
the "Motion for JAS WG charter extension" as
follows:</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Remove "Resolved
1. c) Establishing a framework (for consideration etcetera,) including a
possible recommendation for a separate ICANN originated foundation, for
managing any auction income, beyond costs. for future rounds and ongoing
assistance;"</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Rationale: </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">First, I'm
convinced the community and ICANN have to be prepared how to manage
any potential new gTLD auction profit.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">As usual in case
profit is available one can expect many interested community groups expressing
their needs to share that profit where new applicants are one group of it. In
addition parts of the overall ICANN program could also profit from that fund
(e.g. outreach program, DNS security etc.).</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">So my reservations
to this topic being covered by the JAS
group only are:</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">- it is a too large
area for the JAS and would go far beyond their originally intended
scope</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">- there are lots of
more urgent tasks for this WG as laid down in the new draft charter. Handling
the potential auction profit is of lower priority on the
timescale .</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">- as per definition
the JAS view is applicant oriented that would cause an
imbalance</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">As I pointed out in
former e-mails the JAS could express the new applicants' general interest in
taking part in the distribution of the potential auction
profit.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I suggest to
initiate discussion on council level how to cover this topic separately and
appropriately.<BR><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue"> </SPAN></SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I'm in agreement
with all other items in the charter and would be happy if the amendment
could be accepted as friendly .</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Save travels to
Cartagena</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=DE
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Wolf-Ulrich </SPAN><SPAN
lang=DE style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><B><SPAN lang=DE
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Von:</SPAN></B><SPAN
lang=DE style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> Rafik
Dammak [mailto:<A href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com"
target=_blank>rafik.dammak@gmail.com</A>] <BR><B>Gesendet:</B> Mittwoch,
1. Dezember 2010 20:58<BR><B>An:</B> Knoben,
Wolf-Ulrich<BR><B>Betreff:</B> regarding your amendment</SPAN><SPAN
lang=DE><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Hi Wolf-Ulrich, <o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>regarding your comment last time about JAS motion, I
would like to know what are the reasons for asking to remove the 1.c . I
think that we should find a better and constructive compromise.what do you
think?<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>Regards<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P
class=MsoNormal>Rafik<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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