<div dir="ltr">Hi Jaime,<div><br></div><div>easy question, what media coverage are you you talking about for the case of Jordan?if you are referring to other Arab countries unrest, that would be an interesting way of reasoning.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div><br clear="all"><div dir="ltr"><div>Rafik <br></div></div><br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/2/18 Jaime Wagner - PowerSelf <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jaime@powerself.com.br">jaime@powerself.com.br</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div lang="PT-BR" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Rafik,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">My comments are made on a personal basis.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Deaths and constant upheaval in my opinion is sufficient reason to move the meeting to a place without such conflicts. Don’t you agree? </span></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">As for transparency: what is more transparent than the media coverage these incidents are getting?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">De:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> <a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>] <b>Em nome de </b>Rafik Dammak<br>
<b>Enviada em:</b> quinta-feira, 17 de fevereiro de 2011 15:28<br><b>Para:</b> Stéphane Van Gelder<br><b>Cc:</b> David Olive; Adrian Kinderis; <a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a><br>
<b>Assunto:</b> Re: [council] Swap out Jordon for Singapore</span></p></div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Hi Stephane,</p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
well I didn't know that a councilor sending email to GNSO list means that I am talking on behalf of GNSO council, did I miss something?</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I think that I has the right to question about the process and how the decision was made, are you denying this to me, Stephane?</p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal">transparent? it started with rumor and just got the info by surprise, I guess that we may have different definition of transparency?</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">finally, I think that I can still make any assertions and acting freely especially when there is no any given reasons and explanations, I think that I didn't infringe rules and I express my concern in appropriate way. </p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Regards </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Rafik </p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">
<br><br></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">2011/2/18 Stéphane Van Gelder <<a href="mailto:stephane.vangelder@indom.com" target="_blank">stephane.vangelder@indom.com</a>></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Hi Rafik,</p></div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I would like clarification from you that your assertion that this is a dangerous precedent for A&T is a personal comment.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">It seems to me that if the meeting team detect a reason for not going ahead with a meeting, we should support their initiatives to take action in that regard. Failing that, I'm sure ICANN would fall under criticism for NOT taking action.</p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">It also seems ICANN is being fully transparent and giving ample warning of the change.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
I am certain we can expect an explanation as to why the change is being made in the near future. I think we have to give staff a chance to provide this explanation before starting to make assertions, as a Council, that there is a "dangerous precedent" for anything here...</p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Stéphane</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br>Envoyé de mon iPhone4</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>Le 17 févr. 2011 à 16:47, Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :</p>
</div><div><div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Hi David,</p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">how the decision was made and in which information it was based. it is dangerous precedent and for matter of accountability and transparency I would like to see memo and other material that led ICANN board to make such decision if they will be published or not. and I don't see any element of confidentiality that prevent it.</p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Regards</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Rafik Dammak</p></div><p class="MsoNormal">
Twitter: @rafik</p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Linkedin: <a href="http://tn.linkedin.com/in/rafikdammak" target="_blank">http://tn.linkedin.com/in/rafikdammak</a></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">
<br><br></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">2011/2/18 David Olive <<a href="mailto:david.olive@icann.org" target="_blank">david.olive@icann.org</a>></p><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Adrian and Council Members:</span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> The ICANN June meeting will not take place in Jordan. A decision was made and the Jordanian host has already been contacted about this change. </span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">In a day or so, there will be a formal ICANN announcement concerning this matter as well information on the location for the next meeting .</span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Regards, David</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">David A. Olive<br>Vice President, Policy Development Support<br>Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)<br>
1101 New York Avenue, NW - Suite 930 - Washington, D.C. 20005<br>Office: 202.570.7126 Mobile: 202.341.3611</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
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</div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span style="color:black">Adrian Kinderis <<a href="mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com.au" target="_blank">adrian@ausregistry.com.au</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 06:55:43 -0800<br><b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[council] Swap out Jordon for Singapore</span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span></p></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">The latest rumours are that we’ll be heading to Singapore next folks given the “unrest” in the Middle East.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span lang="EN-AU" style="color:black">Adrian Kinderis</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"></span></p>
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