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<BODY lang=EN-AU vLink=purple link=blue>I agree. It would be useful to get a clearer picture of wrt the motions over the weekend to avoid confusion at the public meeting.<br/><br/><br/><p>
<br/><br/>Sincerely,<br/><br/>Zahid Jamil<br/>Barrister-at-law<br/>Jamil & Jamil<br/>Barristers-at-law<br/>219-221 Central Hotel Annexe<br/>Merewether Road, Karachi. Pakistan<br/>Cell: +923008238230<br/>Tel: +92 21 5680760 / 5685276 / 5655025<br/>Fax: +92 21 5655026<br/>www.jamilandjamil.com<br/> <br/>Notice / Disclaimer<br/>This message contains confidential information and its contents are being communicated only for the intended recipients . If you are not the intended recipient you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.<br/>Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this message by mistake and delete it from your system. The contents above may contain/are the intellectual property of Jamil & Jamil, Barristers-at-Law, and constitute privileged information protected by attorney client privilege. The reproduction, publication, use, amendment, modification of any kind whatsoever of any part or parts (including photocopying or storing it in any medium by electronic means whether or not transiently or incidentally or some other use of this communication) without prior written permission and consent of Jamil & Jamil is prohibited.<br/><br/><br/>Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device</p><hr/><div><b>From: </b> "Neuman, Jeff" <Jeff.Neuman@neustar.us>
</div><div><b>Sender: </b> owner-council@gnso.icann.org
</div><div><b>Date: </b>Thu, 10 Mar 2011 07:08:29 -0500</div><div><b>To: </b>'KnobenW@telekom.de'<KnobenW@telekom.de>; 'adrian@ausregistry.com.au'<adrian@ausregistry.com.au>; 'council@gnso.icann.org'<council@gnso.icann.org></div><div><b>Subject: </b>Re: AW: [council] Public Meeting and the use of weekends</div><div><br/></div><font style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">
In addition to talking about motions when the subjects come up, there is time on Sat (12-1) to discuss the Council motions.<br><br>It is hard during the weekend to have a complete discussion as it is not until Constituency day that we really know what our groups think about them and what changes we have to have. That is always scheduled as the day before the council meeting, so as long as that continues, we will always have a semi-chaotic public Council meeting in my opinion.<br><br>
<br>Jeffrey J. Neuman, Esq.
<br>Vice President, Law & Policy
<br>NeuStar, Inc.
<br>Jeff.Neuman@neustar.biz
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<P><SPAN lang=de><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Best regards</FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN lang=de><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Wolf-Ulrich</FONT></SPAN> </P>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>Von:</B> owner-council@gnso.icann.org
[mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <B>Im Auftrag von </B>Adrian
Kinderis<BR><B>Gesendet:</B> Donnerstag, 10. März 2011 11:19<BR><B>An:</B>
council@gnso.icann.org<BR><B>Betreff:</B> [council] Public Meeting and the use
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<P class=MsoNormal>All,<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>I am a big supporter of not repeating the sins of the past
(probably because I make so many of them).<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>A few points around the public meeting;<o:p></o:p></P>
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</SPAN></SPAN><![endif]>What are we doing to ensure we are not debating
wording on the fly at the meeting?<BR><SPAN class=366010711-10032011><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>[WUK: ] First to me it's not a difference
between "public" and phone call meetings (which are public to a certain
extent, too). The public meeting shouldn't be seen as a show where
perfect work is presented. It's a 2 hours working session as
usual</FONT></SPAN></P>
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size=2> On the one hand I prefer
having motions well prepared that we're able to achieve results by
voting. On the other hand more and more it's going to happen that alternate
motions are presented where positions of 2 sides are fixed and where we can't
find majority in both houses either. In those cases I would
encourage on the fly wording up to the last moment in order to find a
potential compromise solution rather than going home with
nothing.</FONT></SPAN></P>
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</SPAN></SPAN><![endif]>Are we going to make a rule that all motions MUST be
locked down prior to the meeting?<BR><SPAN class=366010711-10032011><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>[WUK: ] I'm open to discuss this
(s.a.) </FONT></SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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</SPAN></SPAN><![endif]>If so, have we allowed time to dedicate towards
this?<o:p></o:p></P>
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</SPAN></SPAN><![endif]>How are we catering for public involvement in the
meeting itself (this has always baffled me)?<BR><SPAN
class=366010711-10032011><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>[WUK:
] We've rules which our chair is following. But we could talk about
improvements. </FONT></SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Thanks.<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B>Adrian Kinderis</B><BR><BR><o:p></o:p></P>
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