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color=#0000ff size=2>I also think we should talk about what, if anything, we
should be doing as a Council to ensure that a WG Final Report doesn't get to us
and we feel it's necessary to send it back to the WG.
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> owner-council@gnso.icann.org
[mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Stéphane Van
Gelder<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 22, 2011 5:13 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu<BR><B>Cc:</B>
'council@gnso.icann.org'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [council] Kieren's thoughts on
Mikey's "resignation"<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>This is clearly something we can discuss tomorrow.
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<DIV>As usual, we have not set an official agenda for our wrap-up so that we
can look forward to some great discussion.</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks,</DIV>
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<DIV>Le 22 juin 2011 à 11:05, <<A
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<DIV>Unfortunately, that brings us back to the discussion we had after
whatever meeting it was, when we ended up re-drafting motions during our
public meeting, and that didn't go down well either - both seem opposite
ends of the spectrum (too much open discussion versus too little?). Maybe we
should discuss this during the wrap-up session tomorrow.</DIV>
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<DIV>Cheers</DIV>
<DIV>Mary<BR><BR></DIV>
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<TD><STRONG>From: </STRONG></TD>
<TD>"Neuman, Jeff" <<A
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<TD><STRONG>To:</STRONG></TD>
<TD>"<A href="mailto:'tim@godaddy.com">'tim@godaddy.com</A>'"
<<A href="mailto:tim@godaddy.com">tim@godaddy.com</A>>,
"<A
href="mailto:'adrian@ausregistry.com.au">'adrian@ausregistry.com.au</A>'"
<<A
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<TD><STRONG>Date: </STRONG></TD>
<TD>6/22/2011 4:59 AM</TD></TR>
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<TD><STRONG>Subject: </STRONG></TD>
<TD>Re: [council] Kieren's thoughts on Mikey's
"resignation"</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I
think both Mikey and subsequently jumped the gun based on the debates
over the weekend, which were just that....debates.<BR><BR>To post an
article like Kieren has could have the unintended affect of stifling
open debate during our sessions. I for one prefer open debate, but not
if some are going to take that out of context.<BR><BR>We eventually
got to the right place, but we needed to get there through debate and
working through the issues. We should have been given the benefit of
the doubt until we took final action.<BR><BR><BR>Jeffrey J. Neuman,
Esq.<BR>Vice President, Law & Policy<BR>NeuStar, Inc.<BR><A
href="mailto:Jeff.Neuman@neustar.biz">Jeff.Neuman@neustar.biz</A><BR><BR></FONT><BR> <BR>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"><B>From</B>:
Tim Ruiz [mailto:tim@godaddy.com]<BR><B>Sent</B>: Wednesday, June 22,
2011 04:46 AM<BR><B>To</B>: <A
href="mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com.au">adrian@ausregistry.com.au</A>
<<A
href="mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com.au">adrian@ausregistry.com.au</A>><BR><B>Cc</B>:
<A href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</A>
<<A
href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</A>><BR><B>Subject</B>:
RE: [council] Kieren's thoughts on Mikey's
"resignation"<BR></FONT> <BR></DIV>Of course, it is a one sided
story. The Council changed nothing in the<BR>report or
recommendations. It only changed it's own motion. But, we all<BR>know
that. Too bad Kieren didn't bother to get more facts before
jumping<BR>the gun with his article. He used to be a bit more
careful.<BR><BR><BR>Tim<BR><BR>> -------- Original Message
--------<BR>> Subject: [council] Kieren's thoughts on Mikey's
"resignation"<BR>> From: Adrian Kinderis
<ADRIAN@AUSREGISTRY.COM.AU><BR>> Date: Wed, June 22, 2011 2:54
am<BR>> To: GNSO Council List <COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG><BR>>
<BR>> <A
href="http://news.dot-nxt.com/2011/06/22/gnso-council-vs-volunteer-model">http://news.dot-nxt.com/2011/06/22/gnso-council-vs-volunteer-model</A><BR>>
<BR>> Adrian Kinderis<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
<BR><BR></COUNCIL@GNSO.ICANN.ORG></ADRIAN@AUSREGISTRY.COM.AU></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>