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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=312031706-15072011><FONT
face="Lucida Grande">I understand the issues raised by the NCSG.
However I'm opposed to postpone council chair elections. I'm also not a
friend of mixing up competencies of different institutions (SG/constituency and
council). My proposal (for this time) covered by the rules and
bylaws:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=312031706-15072011><FONT
face="Lucida Grande">- take option 1 of Stéphane's paper: this allows for 3
weeks more time of candidate nomination than option 2</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=312031706-15072011>- in case new councillors
can't be seated in time let the incumbents vote</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=312031706-15072011><FONT
face="Lucida Grande">This discussion arises only from the requirement that new
council members should be given a chance to vote and the time constraints
between chair election and new council seating. To my knowledge it was not
covered during the bylaws and rules of procedure review. It could be an agenda
item for the SCI to find a viable solution for the future - if the council so
wishes.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=312031706-15072011></SPAN><FONT
face=arial>Kind regards<BR>Wolf-Ulrich </FONT></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>Von:</B> owner-council@gnso.icann.org
[mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <B>Im Auftrag von
</B>Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu<BR><B>Gesendet:</B> Freitag, 15. Juli 2011
01:12<BR><B>Cc:</B> Council GNSO<BR><B>Betreff:</B> RE: [council] Re:
Suggested election time lines<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px"><FONT face="Lucida Grande"
size=3>Hello - I can try to explain some of the issues. NCSG intends fully to
comply with and meet all the mandated deadlines; however, the Council should
know that we are probably laboring under greater pressure than most of the
other groups. This is because the new NCSG Charter was just approved by the
Board in Singapore, and we've also had a large number of new members (both
directly into the SG and through the newly-approved Not for Profit Operational
Concerns (NPOC) Constituency). We will also have to elect (or re-elect, as may
happen) 4 Councilors, including transitioning from having 3 Board appointed
Councilors to all Councilors being elected by the SG (i.e. under the approved
Charter, elections for Council seats are SG-wide, not via Constituencies),
which can happen only procedurally after the new Charter is formally approved
and accepted by the SG membership.</FONT> </P><BR>
<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px"><FONT face="Lucida Grande"
size=3>Mind you, I'm not making an early excuse for delay - like I said, we
(especially our SG Chair and Executive Committee) are working hard to make
sure not only that all relevant time lines are met, but that the elections are
sufficiently well-publicized so that we will have good candidates coming
forward (from various geographical regions, as mandated by our Charter) and
that all SG members (especially the newer ones) know about the elections and
can participate fully.</FONT> </P><BR>
<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px"><FONT face="Lucida Grande"
size=3>Hopefully this explains some of the concerns that have been raised and
gives the Council a sense of what we are having to do within NCSG.</FONT>
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size=3>Cheers</FONT> </P>
<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px"><FONT face="Lucida Grande"
size=3>Mary </FONT> </P><BR>
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<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px">7/14/2011 5:59 PM
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<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px">RE: [council] Re:
Suggested election time lines </P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px"><BR>I agree with Jeff and
SVG.<BR><BR>How typical of our GNSO/ ICANN psyche that we instantly look
to move a deadline rather than address the issue of
tardiness...<BR><BR>Adrian Kinderis<BR><BR><BR>-----Original
Message-----<BR>From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org
[mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Stéphane Van
Gelder<BR>Sent: Friday, 15 July 2011 7:42 AM<BR>To: Neuman, Jeff<BR>Cc:
Wendy Seltzer; Council GNSO<BR>Subject: Re: [council] Re: Suggested
election time lines<BR><BR><BR>Agree with Jeff that extending is not an
option. If SGs find they cannot elect their new reps in time for Dakar,
then they should look to extend the terms of their own Councillors so as
not to impact the bylaw-mandated leadership election
timeline.<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR><BR>Stéphane<BR><BR>Envoyé de mon
iPhone4<BR><BR>Le 14 juil. 2011 à 21:09, "Neuman, Jeff"
<Jeff.Neuman@neustar.us> a écrit :<BR><BR>> The election
timelines are set forth in the Bylaws. Given that we still have 3
months until the annual meeting, shouldn't that be enough time to get
everything done?<BR>><BR>> Jeffrey J. Neuman<BR>> Neustar, Inc.
/ Vice President, Law & Policy<BR>> Please note new
address: 21575 Ridgetop Circle, Sterling VA
20166 <BR>><BR>><BR>> -----Original
Message-----<BR>> From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org
[mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Wendy Seltzer<BR>>
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 3:05 PM<BR>> To: Stéphane Van
Gelder<BR>> Cc: Council GNSO<BR>> Subject: Re: [council] Re:
Suggested election time lines<BR>><BR>><BR>> NCSG is also
working on its Council elections.<BR>><BR>> A third option would
be to postpone our Council elections (and briefly<BR>> extend the
terms of current officers) if some SGs need a slightly longer<BR>>
window to complete their Councillor elections first.<BR>><BR>>
--Wendy<BR>><BR>> On 07/14/2011 07:52 AM, Stéphane Van Gelder
wrote:<BR>>> Thanks Wendy for your
comments.<BR>>><BR>>> Yes that is correct, we designed
option 1 to address the points made at the previous election and allow
for the new Council to elect its Chair.<BR>>><BR>>> However,
I think it's worth stressing that for this option to be viable, we need
to be sure that all SGs that are due to replace Councillors will have
done so in plenty of time for this vote to take
place.<BR>>><BR>>> So my message was also a request to you,
as representatives of your groups, to let the Council leadership and
secretariat know if your own individual elections would be done in
time?<BR>>><BR>>> Thanks,<BR>>><BR>>>
Stéphane<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> Le 13 juil.
2011 à 18:34, Wendy Seltzer a écrit
:<BR>>><BR>>>><BR>>>> Thanks for getting the
conversation started Stéphane,<BR>>>><BR>>>> Does the
second, electronic, option assume that the voters would be
the<BR>>>> old Councillors, since the new ones will not be
seated until the end of<BR>>>> the AGM? If so, I would
strongly support option 1, to give the<BR>>>> Councillors who
will be serving under the chair an opportunity to vote<BR>>>>
in the Chair's election.<BR>>>><BR>>>>
--Wendy<BR>>>><BR>>>> On 07/13/2011 12:17 PM, Stéphane
Van Gelder wrote:<BR>>>>>
Councillors,<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> As a follow-up to
this, please see attached a slightly modified note. The change is just
to clarify one of the election procedure
scenarios.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>
Thanks,<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>
Stéphane<BR>>>>><BR>>>>><BR>>>>><BR>>>>><BR>>>>><BR>>>>>
Le 11 juil. 2011 à 17:18, Stéphane Van Gelder a écrit
:<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>>
Councillors,<BR>>>>>> A t<BR>>>>>> As the
Dakar meeting looms, one of the items we must cover is the elections of
the next Council Chair (the VCs are house-specific and therefore do not
need to be determined
here).<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> You will remember
that last year's elections gave rise to some debate, and that the
Council felt it would be useful to plan ahead a little more for this
year.<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> To start this
process along, I have been working with Glen to produce two possible
scenarios for running the elections. These are attached. My thanks to
Glen for her hard work on
this.<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> As you will see
from the attached, the options we have looked at are to try and address
the wish that was expressed by some last year that it be the new Council
that elect the Chair. There are some scheduling issues to address, and
if the Council decides to elect its new Chair in Dakar, then we will
have to work closely with those SGs electing new Councillors to ensure
that those elections are done in plenty of time to allow for the Chair
election to happen.<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> We
also ask the question, if we have an election in Dakar (rather than the
2nd option of an electronic ballot beforehand) of whether the vote
should be by open or secret
ballot.<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> Please let us
have your comments on these
proposals.<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>
Thanks,<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>
Stéphane<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> <GNSO
Council Election Procedures for the GNSO Council Chair to be seated in
Dakar in October
2011.doc><BR>>>>><BR>>>><BR>>><BR>><BR><BR><BR></P></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>