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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap: break-word;-webkit-nbsp-mode: space;-webkit-line-break: after-white-space'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cool.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Last I heard there was quite a lot of concern about SVG making unofficial comments... damned if he does damned if he doesn’t!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>So long as he is prepared to go to every event and do the same if requested.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>My fear is the precedent it sets.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I just can’t understand why they want him there, quite frankly (aside from his French joie de vivre). I suspect it potentially could be to legitimise their interests, which could be dangerous. Wait for the press release the next day that includes a photograph of the GNSO Chair speaking at the .eco party (especially when this has been a hotly debated TLD!). Who else is speaking?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Adrian Kinderis </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br><br></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> William Drake [mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 20 October 2011 12:26 PM<br><b>To:</b> Stéphane Van Gelder<br><b>Cc:</b> Adrian Kinderis; council@gnso.icann.org Council<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [council] Fwd: eco reception<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>eco always holds a reception/party at ICANN meetings, very relaxed and informal events, mostly German speakers. I can't see the harm of Stéphane giving some non-official comments on what's up in the GNSO these days to a crowd of cheery people clutching beers…<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Bill<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Oct 20, 2011, at 2:14 AM, Stéphane Van Gelder wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>The point, as far as I'm concerned, is doing GNSO outreach.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>As for the other questions, I'll let Thomas answer if he wants to.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>If me doing a 10-minute talk on the way the GNSO works is going to give rise to suspicions, rather than constructive comments on how this can help improve awareness of what the GNSO Council does, I'm happy not to do it.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Are you objecting to me doing it? Do others feel I should not do it? Please let me know asap. It's because I have been invited in my capacity as Chair that I wanted to give the Council prior warning in case this posed a problem to some.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Stéphane<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Le 19 oct. 2011 à 17:56, Adrian Kinderis a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I don’t get it.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>What’s the point? Who is the audience of the reception etc...</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It doesn’t make sense to me.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Adrian Kinderis<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;border-width:initial;border-color:initial'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Stéphane Van Gelder<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Wednesday, 19 October 2011 6:09 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Council<br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[council] Fwd: eco reception</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Councillors,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>FYI, I have been invited by Thomas Rickert and ECO to give a brief 10 minute introduction to the GNSO at their reception, happening here in Dakar on Monday.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Stéphane</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Début du message réexpédié :<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>De :<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span></b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Thomas Rickert <<a href="mailto:rickert@anwaelte.de">rickert@anwaelte.de</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Objet : eco reception</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Date :<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span></b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>19 octobre 2011 15:25:15 HAEC</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>À :<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span></b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Stéphane Van Gelder <<a href="mailto:stephane.vangelder@indom.com">stephane.vangelder@indom.com</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Dear Stéphane,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>please find below the invitation to the eco reception on Monday, which eco is doing to send out shorty. <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Your short address does not need to take longer than 10 mins. I have called it "GNSO - A Brief Introduction to Current and Future Challenges".<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I am looking forward to seeing you on Saturday.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Best,<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thomas<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>