<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Councillors, FYI, please see the email chain below, showing you my comments to the ALAC Chair, Olivier's response and info from the ccNSO Chair on a session they are organizing that will be open to all.<div><br></div><div>Missing from this is confirmation from the ALAC Chair that he will not push this idea further at this time.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br><div>
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<div><br><div>Début du message réexpédié :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>De : </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">Lesley Cowley <<a href="mailto:lesley@nominet.org.uk">lesley@nominet.org.uk</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Objet : </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><b>Rép : [soac-discussion] SOPA Discussions</b><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Date : </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">8 février 2012 19:52:47 HNEC<br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>À : </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">Stéphane Van Gelder <<a href="mailto:stephane.vangelder@indom.com">stephane.vangelder@indom.com</a>>, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com">ocl@gih.com</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Cc : </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">"<a href="mailto:soac-discussion@icann.org">soac-discussion@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:soac-discussion@icann.org">soac-discussion@icann.org</a>>, ICANN AtLarge Staff <<a href="mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org">staff@atlarge.icann.org</a>><br></span></div><br><div><br>Given Stéphane's latter comment, perhaps I should re-mention cNSO has<br>scheduled a session on this at 4.00pm on the Tuesday afternoon, and it is<br>open to all. Sharing developments within ccTLDs is within the ccNSO<br>purview :o)<br><br>Planned topics and speakers are currently as follows:<br>SOPA & ACTA overview Becky Burr, ccNSO Council Member<br>Internet Government Control in Latin America, Alejandro Pisanty and<br>Oscar Robles ( .MX)<br>HADOPI 2 and other French legislation initiatives Mathieu Weill, .fr<br>China, Law Enforcement and DNS Filtering Hong Xue, ccNSO Council Member<br>Internet government control in South Korea .kr (speaker TBC)<br><br>Kind regards,<br><br>Lesley<br><br>Lesley Cowley, OBE<br>CEO<br>Nominet<br>Minerva House<br>Edmund Halley Road<br>Oxford Science Park<br>Oxford, OX4 4DQ<br>UK<br><br>Tel: +44-(0)-1865-332211<br><a href="http://www.nominet.org.uk/">http://www.nominet.org.uk/</a><br><br><br><br><br><br>On 08/02/2012 17:35, "Stéphane Van Gelder" <stephane.vangelder@indom.com><br>wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Thanks Olivier. If a session is to be held, I'd recommend an open<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">session, as part of the main agenda.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">But I would like to add that I don't think this is part of ICANN's<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">mandate and that some may disagree with the use of ICANN funds (anything<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">that happens during an ICANN meeting week has to be paid for out of the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">meeting budget) to hold a general discussion on such a topic, rather than<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">a session on something that is strictly within ICANN's purview.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Thanks,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Stéphane<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Le 8 févr. 2012 à 11:02, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond a écrit :<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Dear Stéphane,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">thank you for your kind message.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">My train of thought goes as follows:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">1. Find out if there is interest about the subject of SOPA and if yes,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">2. Ask staff to find out of there might be between 1 and 1.5 hours free<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">in the San José schedule for an ICANN-run session cross SO/AC (including<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">avoiding time conflicts for all participants) and if yes,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">3. Ask whether anyone wishes to take the lead in setting an agenda for<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">this proposed session.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Only if all 3 are yes, do I propose that we have a cross SO/AC session<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">discussing SOPA and its impact on ICANN's operations and<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">multi-stakeholder, bottom-up policy development process.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I believe we've had a "yes" to (1) so I now kindly ask staff to perform<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">(2), please.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Kind regards,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Olivier<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On 08/02/2012 10:27, Stéphane Van Gelder wrote :<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Olivier,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">What is your intent here? For ALAC to organize a session and ask<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">others in the community to join? Or to ask ICANN to organize a session<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">and invite all? Or something else I have missed?<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I'm asking the question because I'm not sure what it is you are<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">looking for. If the idea is just to hold a workshop on SOPA, then I<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">don't think much consultation is needed. If you are asking for our<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">input as leaders of the various ICANN communities, then what kind of<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">input are you looking for?<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Thanks,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Stéphane Van Gelder<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Directeur Général / General manager<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">INDOM Group NBT France<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">----------------<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Head of Domain Operations<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Group NBT<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Le 1 févr. 2012 à 08:27, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond a écrit :<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Dear SO/AC Chairs,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">a recent discussion on an ALAC call led to the question whether the<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">ICANN community might be interested in holding a session in San José,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">to<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">discuss the aspects of the SOPA (Stop Online Piracy Act) and how it<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">might affect ICANN policies that were reached through consensus.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I am writing to you all to find out of this is something which your<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">community might be interested in.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">As we are currently finalising schedules, it would be helpful to find<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">out your community's views ASAP.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Warmest regards,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Olivier<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">-- <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">http://www.gih.com/ocl.html<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">-- <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">http://www.gih.com/ocl.html<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><br><br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>