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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Stéphane and all,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I really appreciate the concerns about staff workload, which continue to be significant. In this case, Marika has just completed the implementation of the PDP revision and the PEDNR PDP, and has almost completed the IRTP part B PDP, so if the Council elected to proceed, her work load is freeing up a bit, and she would be in a position to support this WG. Steve Sheng would also be available to assist with any technical matters. This assumes that there is sufficient GNSO community bandwidth to participate in the WG, it is much harder for staff to support a group when community participation is spotty.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Best, Liz<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Stéphane Van Gelder [mailto:Stephane.vangelder@indom.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 11, 2012 1:09 PM<br><b>To:</b> Liz Gasster<br><b>Cc:</b> Jonathan Robinson; council@gnso.icann.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [council] Motion to delay thick WHOIS PDP<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks Liz and all for moving this along.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Liz, on the Staff resource issue, let me ask you the question outright: does Staff feel it has the bandwidth to take on this extra work should the Council decide to do so?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The reason I am asking is that in past months, you have been very clear about the fact that Staff resources are stretched so thin that if the Council opted to start new work, it may need to consider dropping something else on its pending project list to accommodate the new requirement.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>As you know, I think you have been absolutely right to make this point and to help the Council understand what staff resources it can expect to call on.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>So I have to admit to being slightly confused at your apparent hesitation to cite the Staff resource issue in this motion, as Jonathan suggests doing. Although you are of course absolutely right: as far as I know, Staff has not been asked about their ability to take up this specific task and staff has been nothing short of stellar in their willingness to step up and take on any work that the Council has thrown at it up to known.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Stéphane<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Le 11 avr. 2012 à 18:48, Liz Gasster a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dear Jonathan and all,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I would respectfully like to make two friendly suggestions to this motion (I’ve redlined in the attached):</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='margin-left:.5in'><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>1.</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> <span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>To delete reference to ICANN staff resources. Staff has not been asked about our specific resources available to do this PDP (we are constrained overall but we have consistently stepped up to new work, if sometimes making modified arrangements to address workload). So I am not comfortable with the language making this a staff workload issue. I understand the issue of GNSO community resources, so that language is retained in my suggested edit.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='margin-left:.5in'><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>2.</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> <span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>To add a “date certain” which still would need to be inserted. The end time for a delay needs to be specifically defined, even if adjusted later on.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I’m happy to explain these suggestions further. Thanks so much for considering.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Best regards, Liz</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-width:initial;border-color:initial'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org]">[mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org]</a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Jonathan Robinson<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Wednesday, April 11, 2012 8:33 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>'Stéphane Van Gelder'; <a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>RE: [council] Motion to delay thick WHOIS PDP</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dear Stéphane & fellow councillors,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>We have today discussed this motion during the course of the Registries SG meeting.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>A concern was expressed and discussed in some detail about the reason for delay and directly linking a PDP process (on Thick WHOIS) with contractual negotiations (on .com).</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The PDP process and the contractual negotiation processes are essentially distinct and separate processes.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Therefore, I’d like to propose a friendly amendment to modify the motion in order to deal with this concern.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I have attached suggested re-wording of the motion to accommodate this concern.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Best wishes,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jonathan</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-width:initial;border-color:initial'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:[mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org]">[mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org]</a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Stéphane Van Gelder<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>04 April 2012 14:22<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>GNSO<br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[council] Motion to delay thick WHOIS PDP</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>All,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>You will remember that in CR the Council expressed a desire to delay the thick whois PDP.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>Since then, the Council leadership and Staff have discussed this at length.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>First, it has been deemed necessary to have a formal motion to do this. Due to the deadline for motions being today, I have asked that a motion to that effect be prepared and I am submitting this today. I am doing this as Chair, from an administrative point of view, to help see this process moved forward.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>Second, we've had extensive discussions on what voting threshold should be used for this motion. In the end, we have ascertained that as there is no specific reference to a PDP suspension process in the bylaws, the default threshold should be used (see bylaws section 3.9: <a href="http://www.icann.org/en/about/governance/bylaws#X-3.9">http://www.icann.org/en/about/governance/bylaws#X-3.9</a>).</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>Motion attached.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><Motion to delay the 'thick' Whois PDP - 30 March 2012 LizG.doc><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>