<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Thanks Wolf and Wolfgang for your comments.<div><br></div><div>If there is more decision on this, could I urge others to chime in so that we can ascertain whether a full agenda item is needed on this, or whether the discussion can be had on the list.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br><div>
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<br><div><div>Le 3 mai 2012 à 11:38, <<a href="mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de">KnobenW@telekom.de</a>> <<a href="mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de">KnobenW@telekom.de</a>> a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="366250009-03052012"><font size="2" face="Arial">My personal view on this is mixed.</font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="366250009-03052012"><font size="2" face="Arial">Saving of time and money is always preferable - but not at the
expense of transparency when the board is taking decisions at public meetings.
SO/AC/BC reporting could be removed by providing them in written form
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="366250009-03052012"><font size="2" face="Arial">But it makes a difference</font></span></div>
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to hold "a one-hour session following the Public Forum on Thursday
afternoon..... and outline what they have heard during the week from their
meetings with AC/SOs and their constituent parts and identify those matters they
expect to be dealing with...", to decide upon during non-public board
sessions and at the following ICANN Public Meeting to "report to the community
on what they have dealt with since Prague"</font></span></div>
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to discuss and take decisions publicly</font></span></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial"><span class="366250009-03052012">I'm curious to know
whether this board decision was based on the survey ("Improving Global
Engagement") ICANN started in March where they solicited community input on
improving e.g. effectiveness. For me the Public Meetings - with all their facets
- are per se the highlights of global engagement.</span></font></div><!-- Converted from text/rtf format --><br><p><font face="Arial"><font size="2"><span lang="de">Best regards</span> <br><span lang="de">Wolf-Ulrich</span> </font></font></p>
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<font size="2" face="Tahoma"><b>Von:</b> <a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>
[mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Stéphane Van
Gelder<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 2. Mai 2012 22:52<br><b>An:</b> Margie
Milam<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a> Council<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re:
[council] Proposed Agenda Item - Elimination of Friday Public Board
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<div></div>Thanks Margie, much appreciated.
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<div>In the meantime, let me add some more context for the benefit of the
Council.</div>
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<div>In CR, Steve asked me what I would think of the idea of shortening the
ICANN meeting week by doing away with the Friday. This was floated to me as
just an idea. I was given no indication that it would be implemented one day,
let alone in Prague. And I was given no details on its possible
implementation.</div>
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<div>When Steve discussed this with me, I did not get the sense that he meant
to do a public consultation on this decision. This was a private conversation
and not one where it was at any time made clear to me that I should break
Steve's confidence and discuss this publicly. That is why I did not discuss
this here.</div>
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<div>This week's announcement has, as Jeff says, generated some negative
comments. Those that I have seen are that this decision was taken without any
consultation and that doing away with the Friday Board meeting is detrimental
to transparency.</div>
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<div>My own personal view is otherwise. I believe that cutting the Friday out
of the ICANN week is a step in the right direction towards reducing costs and
time challenges for meeting participants, including the Board. Over the past
year, I have seen the Board work hard to improve its transparency. We now have
detailed rationale on votes at every meeting and explanations of the issues
being considered. So I am comfortable with giving the Board a little of the
benefit of the doubt in trying out new ideas such as this one.</div>
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<div>Stéphane</div>
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<div>Le 2 mai 2012 à 22:10, Margie Milam a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
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Stéphane,<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I’ll
follow up internally to provide the requested
information.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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regards,<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<div style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>
[mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Stéphane Van
Gelder<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, May 02, 2012 2:08
PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a>
Council<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
[council] Proposed Agenda Item - Elimination of Friday Public Board
Meetings<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div>
<div style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p></o:p></div>
<div style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Is
someone from Staff able to provide the requested information, whether it be
on the list or during the next Council meeting?<o:p></o:p></div>
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<div style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Le
2 mai 2012 à 20:38, Neuman, Jeff a écrit :<o:p></o:p></div></div>
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<div style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">All,<o:p></o:p></span></div></div>
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<div style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Given the
announcement yesterday of the elimination of the public Board meetings at
ICANN, I would like to put this on the Council agenda as a discussion
item. I would like it if someone from ICANN that is familiar with the
rationale behind this decision could give us an explanation of how and why
that decision was made. <o:p></o:p></span></div></div>
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<div style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div>
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<div style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Also, if the ICANN
Board can unilaterally declare that all of its meetings will be private,
does this set a precedent for its Supporting Organizations to do the same
thing? I have not reviewed the bylaws with respect to the Council in a
little bit, but does the Council have the discretion to declare that it will
no longer hold a public GNSO Council meeting at ICANN?<br><br>I think there
has been enough disapproval expressed within the community in the last day
or so that at least merits a discussion of this decision at the Council
level.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div>
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<div style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><br>Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div>
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