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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=546363509-19062012><FONT size=2
face=Arial>Thanks Jeff, very helpful!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=546363509-19062012><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN
class=546363509-19062012><FONT color=#000000 size=2 face=Arial>These are the
documents we're also referring to.</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=546363509-19062012><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN
class=546363509-19062012></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><FONT
face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#000000><SPAN
class=546363509-19062012>However</SPAN> the focus of SAC 051 and the
Roadmap seems primarily protocol-related. Originally you may recall that
the Council asked the WHOIS Service Requirements Survey Working Group to
consider adding this “feature” as a possible technical “requirement” to be
surveyed to determine the degree of community support for that capability as
part of a new protocol. The WSWG concluded that WHOIS uptime or “basic
availability of and access to WHOIS data” such as an<SPAN
class=546363509-19062012> </SPAN>SLA-type approach was not a technical
protocol-level issue but rather an operational or policy issue that was not
within the WSWG’s remit and no specific requirement of uptime is required
today. <SPAN class=546363509-19062012>(</SPAN>Recall this email from
Compliance reporting on this: </FONT></FONT></FONT><A
title=blocked::http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/council/msg10766.html
href="http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/council/msg10766.html"><FONT
color=#000000 size=2
face=Arial>http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/council/msg10766.html</FONT></A><SPAN
class=546363509-19062012></SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#000000>)<SPAN
class=546363509-19062012>.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN
class=546363509-19062012></SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#000000>Thus we do not think that there is much potential overlap with SAC
051 or the Roadmap which is also focusing at the protocol level, except possibly
insofar as PDP might result at some point during the Roadmap
process.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p><FONT
color=#000000 size=2 face=Arial> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><FONT
face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#000000>Our access motion is intended to
basically assure what you are describing in #3 and #4 below, which is to follow
up to include the access capability in an RAA PDP in the event that an SLA
doesn’t result from the RAA negotiations. This is why the motion is
focusing on incorporating this access into a possible PDP if not addressed in
negotiations and why we do not necessarily see a connection with the SAC 051
Roadmap.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><SPAN lang=de><FONT size=2 face="Courier New">Best regards</FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN lang=de><FONT size=2 face="Courier New">Wolf-Ulrich</FONT></SPAN> </P>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>Von:</B> Neuman, Jeff
[mailto:Jeff.Neuman@neustar.us] <BR><B>Gesendet:</B> Sonntag, 17. Juni 2012
21:25<BR><B>An:</B> Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich;
council@gnso.icann.org<BR><B>Betreff:</B> RE: Motion on WHOIS Access
recommendation<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Wolf,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">This
is key, but also please review:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class=MsoListParagraph><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">1.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><![endif]><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> SAC
51: <A
href="http://www.icann.org/en/groups/ssac/documents/sac-051-en.pdf">http://www.icann.org/en/groups/ssac/documents/sac-051-en.pdf</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class=MsoListParagraph><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">2.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><![endif]><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> And
the final roadmap to implement SAC 51: <A
href="http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-6-04jun12-en.htm">http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-6-04jun12-en.htm</A>
which is currently published and before the board.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><BR>I
do disagree with some things in the road map like the legalistic approach to
standards development which is a larger issue of how ICANN sees its own self
regulatory model, but nonetheless, they need to be
reviewed.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class=MsoListParagraph><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">3.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><![endif]><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Also,
don’t forget the current discussions with the registrars on the RAA
amendments: <A
href="http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-7-04jun12-en.htm">http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-7-04jun12-en.htm</A>
which have several sections dealing with WHOIS Access.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class=MsoListParagraph><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">4.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><![endif]><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">And
finally keep in mind that certain picket fence items not finalized in the RAA
discussions, can be addressed in the PDP we approved (which I believe the
motion is meant to address).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">The
main point is that the motion came out of a group whose recommendations are 3
years old and do not take into consideration all of the work that is already
underway.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Given
all the work already underway, what is it that the motion adds that is not
being done?<BR><BR><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 6pt; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 9pt">Jeffrey
J. Neuman</SPAN></B><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #3366ff; FONT-SIZE: 9pt">
<BR></SPAN></B><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #068658; FONT-SIZE: 9pt">Neustar,
Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #7d7d7d; FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt"><BR><BR></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: gray; FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>KnobenW@telekom.de<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 16, 2012 4:42
AM<BR><B>To:</B> council@gnso.icann.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> [council] Motion on
WHOIS Access recommendation<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">All:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">with regards to the
a.m. motion which has been deferred to the Prague meeting I'd like to come
back to the "definition of WHOIS Access" which was discussed at the last
call.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">In this context two
defining documents should be given attention: the RAP WG Final Report and the
WHOIS Policy Review Team Final Report.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The RAP WG is
pointing to "basic availability of and access to WHOIS data" which implies
technical, operational and contractual aspects (see <A
href="http://gnso.icann.org/issues/rap/rap-wg-final-report-29may10-en.pdf">http://gnso.icann.org/issues/rap/rap-wg-final-report-29may10-en.pdf</A>;
page 71 ff)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">In this context it
may be helpful to make reference to the definitions in the WHOIS Policy Review
Team Final Report on WHOIS Data, WHOIS Protocol and WHOIS Service (see <A
href="http://www.icann.org/en/about/aoc-review/whois/final-report-11may12-en">http://www.icann.org/en/about/aoc-review/whois/final-report-11may12-en</A>;
page 22 ff)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I would appreciate
if continuing this discussion on the list could lead to a more common
understanding of the item until it comes to
voting.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Best regards</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Wolf-Ulrich </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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