<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Thanks Ching.<div><br></div><div>If everyone is in agreement with the proposed suggestion that we cosign the SSAC letter, then I will alter the Sept 13 agenda and add approval of us cosigning the letter to the consent agenda, which would have the added benefit of removing a full agenda item from what at present is a very, very full agenda.</div><div><br></div><div>If anyone objects, please say so by COB tomorrow.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br><div>
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<br><div><div>Le 22 août 2012 à 12:27, Ching Chiao a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Stéphane / All,<br><br>My apology for not being responsive on this issue.<br><br>Stéphane -- I'd agree your approach on co-signing the SSAC letter,<br>which is simply to deliver the report to the Board. The Council has<br>already authorize the Chair to do so. After the submission of this<br>joint letter, the Board / Staff should prepare for the IRD<br>implementation timeline and liaise with GNSO / SSAC if there's any<br>policy issues -- a useful and similar reference could be ICANN's<br>roadmap on SAC 051 (<br><a href="http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-6-04jun12-en.htm">http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-6-04jun12-en.htm</a><br>). The question now is when the GNSO / ICANN community can see such<br>timeline therefore we should request for it.<br><br>In reality, based on my understanding, the policy works / motion may<br>come a year later or even longer. Here's why. Some of you may have<br>noticed the new development of the WEIRDS-WG<br>(http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/weirds/charter/) in IETF. At the<br>bottom of that web page you can see the proposed milestones for<br>standardizing RDDS. ICANN is relying on WEIRDS-WG to get the ball<br>rolling and ultimately fix the WHOIS / RDDS standardization issues,<br>and this include the IRD. Unless the Council is thinking something<br>else, this IRD / WEIRDS is pretty much driven by the progress /<br>efficiency of technical standard updates, and I assume that many<br>registry / registrar players are involved in that process. So my take<br>at the moment would be getting Staff to brief the Council regularly,<br>and we will have better sense of when to request a formal plan or<br>report from the Board / Staff, as well as to decide when to request<br>for issue report or to initiate PDP.<br><br>Just my two cents for this big issue. Other comments and suggestions<br>are certainly welcome and appreciated.<br><br>Best regards,<br><br>Ching<br><br><br>On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 3:41 AM, Stéphane Van Gelder<br><stephane.vangelder@indom.com> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">Councillors,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Please see below the correspondence from Patrik Fälström, SSAC Chair.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">You will remember that we discussed the IRD-WG FR at our last meeting and it<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">was decided that we should draft a letter to send the Board "requesting the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">implementation plan time-lines and clarifying that any policy implications<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">in implementing the recommendations will have to be considered by the GNSO<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Council".<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Ching volunteered to draft the letter and we were looking to approve it at<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">our next meeting, which is scheduled for Sept 13. The SSAC proposed letter<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">obviously overlaps with this, but from what I can see introduces no new<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">elements apart from actually spelling out the IRD recommendations for the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Board.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I would therefore suggest that we may wish to sign on to the proposed SSAC<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">letter, whilst also sending our own letter as planned. Ching and others,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">please provide feedback on this suggestion and make any comments you feel<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">are relevant to this and the SSAC letter.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I will, as planned, add the approval of Ching's letter to the Sept 13<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">consent agenda. I will also add an agenda item on the proposed SSAC IRD-WG<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">letter.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Thanks,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Stéphane Van Gelder<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Directeur Général / General manager<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">INDOM Group NBT France<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">----------------<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Head of Domain Operations<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Group NBT<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Début du message réexpédié :<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">De : Patrik Fältström <paf@frobbit.se><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Objet : Rép : Draft Letter for Review re: IRD-WG Final Report Delivery to<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Board<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Date : 7 août 2012 07:58:11 UTC+02:00<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">À : Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Cc: Jim Galvin <jgalvin@afilias.info>, Ram Mohan <rmohan@afilias.info>,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@icann.org><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Stéphane,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I have consulted with my Vice Chair, Jim Galvin, and with Ram Mohan, the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">SSAC Liaison to the Board, and we would like to suggest changes to the draft<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">cover letter for the IRD-WG Final Report delivery to the Board that Julie<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Hedlund sent to you and me on 20 July (see original message below). I have<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">attached a revised version for your consideration in Word and PDF. The<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">primary changes are that we included the recommendations from the IRD-WG<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Final Report in the cover letter for the Board's reference. These are<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">highlighted as tracked changes in the revised draft letter.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Best regards,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> Patrik<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">From: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@icann.org><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">To: Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com>, Patrik Fältström<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><patrik@frobbit.se><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Subject: Draft Letter for Review re: IRD-WG Final Report Delivery to Board<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Dear Stéphane and Patrik,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">On 27 June in Prague the GNSO Council passed a motion relating to the Final<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Report of the Internationalized Registration Data Working Group (IRD-WG).<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">In its motion the Council approved the delivery to the Board of the IRD-WG’s<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Final Report and requested staff to draft a joint letter from the GNSO and<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">the SSAC to the Board. Attached for your consideration is the draft joint<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">letter from the GNSO and the SSAC to the Board in Word and PDF and the Final<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Report.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Please let me know if I can be of further assistance.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Best regards,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Julie<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Julie Hedlund, Policy Director/SSAC Support<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>