<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">All,<div><br></div><div>Following on from my email last week I have removed item 3 from our draft agenda and kept the IRD approval in our consent agenda.</div><div><br></div><div>Glen, please make sure we add a link on the agenda to the SSAC letter to serve as a reference for Councillors when we come to approve this during the Sept 13 meeting. Thanks.</div><div><br><div>
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<br><div><div>Le 25 août 2012 à 00:40, Steve Sheng a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Hello Ching,<br><br> As the staff support for the IRD working group and also a participant in<br>the IETF Web Extensible Internet Registration Data Service (weirds) WG, I<br>echo your suggestion that there should be some regular update of the IETF<br>efforts to the Council. This way, the policy community will be informed on<br>the technical community's progress. If council agrees, We could arrange<br>the first briefing to the council in Toronto.<br><br>I also agree with you that once the IETF work is finished, the<br>council could address the IRD issue through a PDP to replace the Whois<br>protocol. <br><br>I want to add one suggestion to your proposal. The translation and<br>transliteration PDP that the IRD-WG called for is not tied to the IETF<br>work, and it would be better to start this sooner.<br><br>So we could have a two part PDP. Part A addresses the translation or<br>transliteration requirement, if any. Part B addresses the Whois protocol<br>replacement issue to consistently support internationalized registration<br>data.<br><br>Regardless of your decision to adopt some or all of the suggestions, and I<br>realize council have other considerations, we thank the council in advance<br>for considering this issue for many non-ASCII internet users.<br><br><br>Let me know if you have any questions, I am happy to discuss this further<br>by email or phone. <br><br><br>Kind regards, <br>Steve<br><br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Ching Chiao <<a href="mailto:chiao@REGISTRY.ASIA">chiao@REGISTRY.ASIA</a>><br>To: Stéphane Van Gelder <<a href="mailto:stephane.vangelder@indom.com">stephane.vangelder@indom.com</a>><br>Cc: GNSO Council List <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br>Subject: Re: [council] Fwd: Draft Letter for Review re: IRD-WG Final<br>Report Delivery to Board<br><br><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Stéphane / All,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">My apology for not being responsive on this issue.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Stéphane -- I'd agree your approach on co-signing the SSAC letter,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">which is simply to deliver the report to the Board. The Council has<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">already authorize the Chair to do so. After the submission of this<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">joint letter, the Board / Staff should prepare for the IRD<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">implementation timeline and liaise with GNSO / SSAC if there's any<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">policy issues -- a useful and similar reference could be ICANN's<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">roadmap on SAC 051 (<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-6-04jun12-en.htm">http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-6-04jun12-en.htm</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">). The question now is when the GNSO / ICANN community can see such<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">timeline therefore we should request for it.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">In reality, based on my understanding, the policy works / motion may<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">come a year later or even longer. Here's why. Some of you may have<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">noticed the new development of the WEIRDS-WG<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">(<a href="http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/weirds/charter/">http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/weirds/charter/</a>) in IETF. At the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">bottom of that web page you can see the proposed milestones for<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">standardizing RDDS. ICANN is relying on WEIRDS-WG to get the ball<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">rolling and ultimately fix the WHOIS / RDDS standardization issues,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">and this include the IRD. Unless the Council is thinking something<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">else, this IRD / WEIRDS is pretty much driven by the progress /<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">efficiency of technical standard updates, and I assume that many<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">registry / registrar players are involved in that process. So my take<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">at the moment would be getting Staff to brief the Council regularly,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">and we will have better sense of when to request a formal plan or<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">report from the Board / Staff, as well as to decide when to request<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">for issue report or to initiate PDP.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Just my two cents for this big issue. Other comments and suggestions<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">are certainly welcome and appreciated.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Best regards,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Ching<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 3:41 AM, Stéphane Van Gelder<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><<a href="mailto:stephane.vangelder@indom.com">stephane.vangelder@indom.com</a>> wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Councillors,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Please see below the correspondence from Patrik Fälström, SSAC Chair.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">You will remember that we discussed the IRD-WG FR at our last meeting<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">and it<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">was decided that we should draft a letter to send the Board "requesting<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">the<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">implementation plan time-lines and clarifying that any policy<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">implications<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">in implementing the recommendations will have to be considered by the<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">GNSO<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Council".<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Ching volunteered to draft the letter and we were looking to approve it<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">at<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">our next meeting, which is scheduled for Sept 13. The SSAC proposed<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">letter<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">obviously overlaps with this, but from what I can see introduces no new<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">elements apart from actually spelling out the IRD recommendations for<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">the<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Board.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I would therefore suggest that we may wish to sign on to the proposed<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">SSAC<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">letter, whilst also sending our own letter as planned. Ching and others,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">please provide feedback on this suggestion and make any comments you<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">feel<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">are relevant to this and the SSAC letter.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I will, as planned, add the approval of Ching's letter to the Sept 13<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">consent agenda. I will also add an agenda item on the proposed SSAC<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">IRD-WG<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">letter.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Thanks,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Stéphane Van Gelder<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Directeur Général / General manager<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">INDOM Group NBT France<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">----------------<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Head of Domain Operations<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Group NBT<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Début du message réexpédié :<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">De : Patrik Fältström <<a href="mailto:paf@frobbit.se">paf@frobbit.se</a>><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Objet : Rép : Draft Letter for Review re: IRD-WG Final Report Delivery<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">to<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Board<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Date : 7 août 2012 07:58:11 UTC+02:00<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">À : Stéphane Van Gelder <<a href="mailto:stephane.vangelder@indom.com">stephane.vangelder@indom.com</a>><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Cc: Jim Galvin <<a href="mailto:jgalvin@afilias.info">jgalvin@afilias.info</a>>, Ram Mohan <<a href="mailto:rmohan@afilias.info">rmohan@afilias.info</a>>,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Julie Hedlund <<a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org">julie.hedlund@icann.org</a>><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Stéphane,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I have consulted with my Vice Chair, Jim Galvin, and with Ram Mohan, the<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">SSAC Liaison to the Board, and we would like to suggest changes to the<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">draft<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">cover letter for the IRD-WG Final Report delivery to the Board that<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Julie<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Hedlund sent to you and me on 20 July (see original message below). I<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">have<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">attached a revised version for your consideration in Word and PDF. The<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">primary changes are that we included the recommendations from the IRD-WG<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Final Report in the cover letter for the Board's reference. These are<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">highlighted as tracked changes in the revised draft letter.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Best regards,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Patrik<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">From: Julie Hedlund <<a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org">julie.hedlund@icann.org</a>><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">To: Stéphane Van Gelder <<a href="mailto:stephane.vangelder@indom.com">stephane.vangelder@indom.com</a>>, Patrik Fältström<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><<a href="mailto:patrik@frobbit.se">patrik@frobbit.se</a>><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Subject: Draft Letter for Review re: IRD-WG Final Report Delivery to<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Board<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Dear Stéphane and Patrik,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On 27 June in Prague the GNSO Council passed a motion relating to the<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Final<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Report of the Internationalized Registration Data Working Group<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">(IRD-WG).<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">In its motion the Council approved the delivery to the Board of the<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">IRD-WG¹s<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Final Report and requested staff to draft a joint letter from the GNSO<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">and<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">the SSAC to the Board. Attached for your consideration is the draft<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">joint<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">letter from the GNSO and the SSAC to the Board in Word and PDF and the<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Final<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Report.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Please let me know if I can be of further assistance.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Best regards,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Julie<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Julie Hedlund, Policy Director/SSAC Support<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>