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Wolfgang, that is all quite interesting (really!), but I'm not sure about
the relevance to this motion since "IOC" is not one of the
strings for which the GAC asked for protection.<br><br>
Alan<br><br>
At 12/11/2012 12:17 PM, Kleinwächter, Wolfgang wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">
<font face="Arial, Helvetica" size=2>Hi everybody<br>
</font> <br>
<font face="Arial, Helvetica" size=2>below are a number of recognized
organisations which have the same acronym (IOC) as the International
Olympic Committee<br>
</font><font color="#0066CC">
<a href="https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/wiki/Intergovernmental_Oceanographic_Commission">
Intergovernmental Oceanographic Commission</a></font>
<a href="https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/wiki/International_Ornithological_Committee">
<font color="#0066CC">International Ornithological Committee</a></font>
<a href="https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/w/index.php?title=International_Oil_Company&action=edit&redlink=1">
<font color="#0066CC">International Oil Company</a></font>
<a href="https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/wiki/Indian_Oil_Corporation">
<font color="#0066CC">Indian Oil Corporation</a></font>
<a href="https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/wiki/Icon_of_Coil">
<font color="#0066CC">Icon of Coil</a></font>, a Norwegian Musicgroup
International Outreach Church (which has
<a href="http://www.ioc.org">www.ioc.org</a>) <br><br>
IOC stands also for <br>
<font color="#0066CC">
<a href="https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/wiki/Inversion_of_Control">
Inversion of Control</a></font> <i>International Organized Crime</i>
<i>Integrated optical circuit</i> <br>
<font color="#0066CC">
<a href="https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/wiki/Initial_Operating_Capability">
Initial Operating Capability</a></font> <br><br>
BTW, <a href="http://www.ioc.info">www.ioc.info</a> or
<a href="http://www.ioc.biz">www.ioc.biz</a> are available (via Network
Solutions)<br><br>
Here is what you will find under
<a href="http://www.ioc.com">www.ioc.com</a><br><br>
Registrant:<br>
Inter Office Communications Inc<br>
PO BOX 618<br>
New Palestine, IN 46163<br>
US<br><br>
Domain Name: IOC.COM<br><br>
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:<br>
<a href="http://reversewhois.domaintools.com/?email=171e626d49e711bb51893ec429cf9ebf">
Brant, Steven B </a><br>
Inter Office Communications Inc<br>
PO BOX 618<br>
New Palestine, IN 46163<br>
US<br>
317.861 5198 fax: 317.861 5198<br><br>
Record expires on 30-Dec-2015.<br>
Record created on 28-Dec-1994.<br><br>
Domain servers in listed order:<br><br>
NS.NETFRONTS.COM <br>
NS2.NETFRONTS.COM<br><br>
Difficult to say what will go and what not ;-((((<br><br>
<br><br>
wolfgang<br><br>
<hr>
<font face="Tahoma" size=2><b>Von:</b> owner-council@gnso.icann.org im
Auftrag von Volker Greimann<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Fr 09.11.2012 17:35<br>
<b>An:</b> Jen Wolfe<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Neuman, Jeff; council@gnso.icann.org<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [council] MOTION TO RECOMMEND PROTECTIONS IN THE
FIRST ROUND OF NEW GTLDS FOR CERTAIN RED CROSS/RED CRESCENT (RCRC) AND
INTERNATIONAL OLYMPIC COMMITTEE (IOC) NAMES<br>
</font><br>
Hi Jen,<br><br>
the legal protections of the terms in question for the IOC and the RCRC
are not all-encompassing, i.e. do not affect existing rights or use in
totally unrelated areas. Many trademarks for the term Olympic exist that
the IOC can do nothing about. Such other legitimate enterprises may
normally be entitled to register, own and use the domain name
olympic.nyc, as an example. The special legal protection affords it
protection against illegitimate use or as you say the attempt to leverage
the goodwill associated with the IOCs brands, but there is no right of
the IOC that prevents legitimate uses of the term.<br><br>
The negative effect results from the fact that the proposed policy would
effectively exclude legitimate applicants from the registration of the
desired name in the sunrise of a TLD. <br><br>
Do not forget that these terms may also carry meaning beyond the
protected use. Olympic for example can reference a specific regional
origin, the mountain of the greek gods, etc.<br><br>
I am not suggesting there should not be any protection, but the
protection that is there should be reasonable and measured to prevent
abuse but allow legitimate use.<br><br>
Best regards,<br><br>
Volker<br><br>
<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Hi Jeff & Volker,<br>
<br>
I apologize if I am asking an overly simplistic question as one of the
new GNSO Council members, but isn’t the purpose of this motion and PDP to
ensure that internet users are not misdirected when looking for the one
true Red Cross or IOC? If I am reading the motion correctly, the
intention is to reserve only exact matches. How is Olympic paints
impacted negatively by this reservation? They chose their brand
knowing there is a one true IOC and, most likely, intended to leverage
the goodwill associated with the Olympic name. It would seem it is
in the interest of the greater internet community to protect the IOC and
Red Cross versus brand owners in terms of reservations of rights.
But again, I’m new to the council, so I apologize if I am missing any
history here that has already addressed this issue.
<br>
<br>
With kindest regards,<br>
<br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 09, 2012 8:52 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Neuman, Jeff<br>
<b>Cc:</b>
<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [council] MOTION TO RECOMMEND PROTECTIONS IN THE
FIRST ROUND OF NEW GTLDS FOR CERTAIN RED CROSS/RED CRESCENT (RCRC) AND
INTERNATIONAL OLYMPIC COMMITTEE (IOC) NAMES<br>
<br>
Hi Jeff,<br><br>
even if the reservation is temporary this will result in that the
potential applicants are effectively disenfranchised from the opportunity
to participate in the Sunrise periods of any given TLD. I don't think
that registry operators and registrars will be willing to entertain a
second sunrise in each and every new TLD just for these strings, which
would mean that rights holders would have to compete with other third
parties once the reservation were lifted.<br><br>
While the IOC and RCRC have internationally established protections in
place, these protections are not all-encompassing and allow for other
legitimate uses of these terms. Consequently, any protections for these
strings we implement in addition to the existing protections should also
take into consideration other legitimate rights. <br><br>
I am not opposed to additional protections in general, however these
should be fair and balanced. I agree that the worst case scenario you
detail is a distinct problem, but there should be possible solutions for
that issue, such as a specific warning for registering parties at the
time of application for sunrise validation, or the right to participate
in the sunrise despite the reservation (i.e. the sunrise application
would not automatically fail as with standard reservations, but either
remain pending until the PDP is done, or be processed as usual but
lead to a right to register upon availability instead of instant
registration). <br><br>
I agree that we should avoid being cornered by our current decision if
the PDP comes out differently, I am just looking for more flexibility to
allow for alternative solutions that would achieve the same
goal.<br><br>
Best,<br><br>
<br>
Volker Greimann<br>
<dl>
<dd>Volker,<br>
<dd> <br>
<dd>Please note that the recommendations are for temporary</u>
reservations pending the outcome of the PDP. You may be correct in
your ultimate conclusion and that may be the way the PDP comes out.
But out of practicality, if the PDP comes out the other way (that the
names should be protected), then the only way to realistically implement
that would be if the names were reserved in the first place. It
would be impossible to take back the names once they are registered by
third parties. Therefore, the Drafting Team believes that the names
should be reserved initially until the PDP is completed. Worst case
scenario if we adopt this measure is that the PDP comes out that the
names should not be protected and then we allow for the release of the
names at that time. If we took your approach and the names should
have been protected (assuming the PDP comes out that way), we are
stuck.<br>
<dd> <br>
<dd>I hope this helps explain the Drafting Team position without in any
way downplaying your opposition to the ultimate reservation.<br>
<br>
<dd>Thanks.<br>
<dd> <br>
<dd>Jeffrey J. Neuman<br>
<dd>Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs</b><br><br>
<br>
<dd> <br>
<dd>From:</b> Volker Greimann
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mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>] <br>
<dd>Sent:</b> Friday, November 09, 2012 7:49 AM<br>
<dd>To:</b> Neuman, Jeff;
<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a><br>
<dd>Subject:</b> Re: [council] MOTION TO RECOMMEND PROTECTIONS IN THE
FIRST ROUND OF NEW GTLDS FOR CERTAIN RED CROSS/RED CRESCENT (RCRC) AND
INTERNATIONAL OLYMPIC COMMITTEE (IOC) NAMES<br>
<dd> <br>
<dd>Dear Jeff, dear fellow councillors,<br><br>
<dd>not trying to ruffle any feathers here, especially at this late
stage, but I have strong objections to the concept of implementing
blanket mandatory restrictions to the legitimate rights of potential
domain owners to apply for certain strings on the second level based
solely on the lobbying power of the IOC and the Red Cross/Red Crescent.
The proposed reserving of the listed terms effectively removes the
ability of other potential rights holders in these strings to apply for
their trademarks or other name rights in the sunrise phase of any newly
launched gTLD, especially since the TMCH warning process would provide
the protected entities and the applicant with ample warning of the
potential conflict during the launch. Only once the minimum duration of
the TMCH protection in newly launched TLDs expires does further
protection become necessary.<br><br>
<dd>A quick search shows numerous such potential applicants for the
string "Olympic" alone: restaurants, an airline, a paint
company, a travel agency, hotels, a college, a dairy company and many
more, none of which infringe upon the legally protected rights of the
above organizations by use of the string "olympic". The blanket
restriction therefore seems as an overreach, especially since effective
protection mechanisms are already implemented during the launch.<br><br>
<dd>A more differentiated approach therefore seems appropriate, such as a
requirement for new gTLD registries to add the affected strings to the
reserved list only after the TMCH is no longer effective for the TLD, or
allowing Sunrise applications despite the restriction. <br><br>
<dd>While I understand and agree with the need to implement some form of
protections for the above organizations, such protections should not
infringe on third party rights to apply for the registration of domain
names that match their legal rights in an undue manner.<br><br>
<dd>Best,<br><br>
<dd>Volker Greimann<br><br>
<br><br>
<br><br>
<dl>
<dd>All,<br>
<dd> <br>
<dd>On behalf of the IOC/RCRC Drafting Team, I am pleased to present the
following motion which was supported by the Drafting Team. For the
record, I will note that the recommendations were not supported by the
Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group and Thomas Rickert, but were supported
by the Registries Stakeholder Group, the, Intellectual Property
Constituency, Business Constituency and ISP Constituency, the
representative from the ALAC, and those representatives from the
International Olympic Committee and the Red Cross/Red Crescent. The
Registrars Stakeholder group did not participate on the Drafting
Team.<br>
<dd> <br>
<dd>Thanks.<br>
<dd>
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<br>
<dd> <br>
<dd> <br>
<dd>MOTION TO RECOMMEND PROTECTIONS IN THE FIRST ROUND OF NEW GTLDS FOR
CERTAIN RED CROSS/RED CRESCENT (RCRC) AND INTERNATIONAL OLYMPIC COMMITTEE
(IOC) NAMES <br>
</b>
<dd> <br>
<dd>Made by: Jeff Neuman<br>
<dd>Seconded by:<br>
</b>
<dd> <br>
<dd>WHEREAS:<br>
</b>
<dd> <br>
<dd>The Board Resolution 2011.06.20.01, authorized “the President and CEO
to implement the new gTLD program which includes . . . incorporation of
text concerning protection for specific requested Red Cross and IOC names
for the top level only during the initial application round, until the
GNSO and GAC develop policy advice based on the global public interest, .
. ."
(<a href="http://www.icann.org/en/groups/board/documents/resolutions-20jun11-en.htm">
http://www.icann.org/en/groups/board/documents/resolutions-20jun11-en.htm</a>
)<br>
<dd> <br>
<dd>T</b>he IOC/RC Drafting Team established [Date] by the GNSO Council
has considered a number of different options with respect to protections
of both the IOC and the RCRC terms in response to the GAC proposal to
provide permanent protection for such terms including at the second level
in new gTLDS; <br>
<dd> <br>
<dd>T</b>he solution proposed by </b>the IOC/RC Drafting Team, to
initiate a PDP and to provide temporary reservation of the exact match
IOC/RC names, was posted for public comment on 28 September 2012 and
closed on 9 November 2012; <br>
<dd> <br>
<dd>T</b>he GNSO has now [Date] initiated a policy development process
(PDP) to evaluate possible protections for certain international
organization names in all gTLDs, including, specifically, whether to
recommend policies to protect IOC/RCRC names; and<br>
<dd> <br>
<dd>T</b>herefore, the IOC/RC Drafting Team recommends that the GNSO
Council recommend to the Board that it adopt the second recommendation of
the IOC/RC Drafting Team, providing for temporary reservation of the
exact match IOC/RC names, prior to the delegation of the first
round of new gTLDs. <br>
<dd> <br>
<dd>NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED</b>: <br>
<dd> <br>
<dd>T</b>hat the GNSO Council adopts the IOC/RC Drafting Team’s
recommendation to temporarily reserve the exact match of IOC and RCRC
second level domain names listed in Section 2.2.1.2.3 of the Applicant
Guidebook and per the GAC recommendation of 14 September 2011pending the
outcome of the recently launched policy development process involving
International Governmental and Non-governmental Organizations.<br>
<dd> <br>
<dd>T</b>hat the GNSO Council thanks the members of the IOC/RC Drafting
Team for their efforts in producing these recommendations, and hereby
disbands the IOC/RC Drafting Team; and<br>
<dd> <br>
<dd>T</b>hat the Chair of the GNSO Council is authorized to forward these
recommendations to the ICANN Board.<br>
<dd> <br>
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<pre>Key-Systems GmbH</pre><br><br>
<pre>Im Oberen Werk 1</pre><br><br>
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Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Volker A. Greimann
- Rechtsabteilung -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
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Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email:
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CEO: Alexander Siffrin
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