John raises some important points in relation to the GAC's role vis a vis the Council. I agree that this letter highlights the need for the GAC to appoint a liaison. <br><br>The GAC, which of course advises the Board, has asked us for the 'rationale' for a Council decision. I would like to be helpful, but aside from directing them to the relevant motion and its attached 'whereas' sequence, what else is there? <br>
<br>As to the GAC's opinion that this relates to merely an implementation issue, we have all seen in the last few weeks that 'implementation issues' can be policy issues, depending on the strength of one's point of view and wish to see that prevail. <br>
<br>As a practical matter regarding the rationale of the group of two dozen people who voted, I don't see what we can provide, other than a link to the motion(s) in question. Am I missing something?<br><br>Maria<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 29 November 2012 15:17, Volker Greimann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>I also agree with Jeff that defining
the two terms aside from the issues would be necessary. I would
however like to add that "implementation" of existing policy may
by the way of the interpretation have such a significant impact on
stakeholders that community consensus of the form of
implementation may become necessary.<br>
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Best,<br>
<br>
Volker<br>
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<div>Jonathan,</div>
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<div>First, this letter makes me more certain we should be
emphatic about getting a GAC observer on the Council.</div>
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<div>Second, I have heard Jeff Neuman's comment on clarifying what
is policy and what is implementation and I agree.</div>
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<div>Third, until the GNSO structure changes, the GAC advises the
Board and if there are policy questions, the Board engages the
Council. Where is the Board on this direct advice to the
Council?</div>
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<div>Four, look forward to the next Council meeting!</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Cheers,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Berard<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div><br>
On Nov 29, 2012, at 4:59 AM, "Jonathan Robinson" <<a href="mailto:jonathan.robinson@ipracon.com" target="_blank">jonathan.robinson@ipracon.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">All,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">FYI.
Please see the attached letter received from the GAC
last night my time.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Jonathan<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US"> GAC Secretariat [<a href="mailto:gacsec@gac.icann.org" target="_blank">mailto:gacsec@gac.icann.org</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 28 November 2012 21:38<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:jonathan.robinson@ipracon.com" target="_blank">jonathan.robinson@ipracon.com</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Steve Crocker; Fadi Chehade; Heather
Dryden; Maria Häll; <a href="mailto:alice@apc.org" target="_blank">alice@apc.org</a>;
Choon Sai LIM (IDA)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Letter from the GAC regarding IOC/RC
Protections<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Sent
on behalf of Heather Dryden, GAC Chair <u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Dear
Jonathan, <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Attached
please find a letter from the GAC regarding IOC and
Red Cross/Red Crescent protections. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Best
regards, <u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Jeannie
Ellers <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Jeannie
Ellers<br>
Manager, GAC Coordination<br>
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and
Numbers<br>
1101 New York Avenue NW, Suite 930<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Washington,
DC 20005<br>
Ph. <a href="tel:%2B1%20202%20570%207135" value="+12025707135" target="_blank">+1 202 570 7135</a><br>
M. <a href="tel:%2B1%20310%20302%207552" value="+13103027552" target="_blank">+1 310 302 7552</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<div><GAC_GNSOCouncil_20121128.pdf></div>
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