<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"><base href="x-msg://2148/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Brian, all,<div>I have checked the respective minutes of the GNSO Council meetings and confirmed that both the motions on the resolution on the initiation of the PDP as well as the adoption of the charter of the WG were carried unanimously. </div><div><br></div><div>Am I correct in understanding that the IPC, while it supported both the initiation of the PDP as well as the scope of the work as laid out in the charter, now wishes to have its opposition to the PDP reflected in the letter? Can you please clarify?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks</div><div>Thomas</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>Am 30.01.2013 um 02:15 schrieb "Winterfeldt, Brian" <<a href="mailto:bwinterfeldt@steptoe.com">bwinterfeldt@steptoe.com</a>>:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">Dear all:<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">As you may already be aware, I have a different point of view on the Council’s response to the GAC with respect to the ongoing IGO-INGO PDP. <o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">Having informally spoken to GAC representatives about this issue, here are some personal comments, that are shared by IPC leadership, as well as a proposed redline that I would like to have on record and I hope the Council will take into consideration.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; text-indent: -0.25in; "><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; "><span>o<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span>The rather broad scope of the current IGO INGO PDP, which considers “whether there is a need for special protections at the top and second level” of all gTLDs, has the practical effect of second guessing GAC advice with respect to international legal norms and public policy. In other words, whether intentional or unintentional, the impact of the instant PDP is to challenge, or at least question, not only the GAC’s proposed criteria for protection, but also the GAC’s determination to advance protection for the specific two organizations that meet that criteria.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; text-indent: -0.25in; "><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; "><span>o<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span>Please bear in mind that the GAC was careful to propose protections for Red Cross designations, Olympic words and a finite list of IGO acronyms<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b><i><u>for new gTLDs only</u></i></b>. I cannot recall anyone ever recommending or requesting such protection in all existing gTLDs as well. Thus, the Council’s response to the GAC needs to fully explain any underlying rationale for the unilateral decision to broaden the scope of the instant PDP well beyond GAC advice to include existing gTLDs.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; text-indent: -0.25in; "><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; "><span>o<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span>The Council’s current draft response to the GAC seems to suggest that the GNSO’s primary remit of policy development relating to the IOC/Red Cross is “to determine what, if any, exceptions (i.e. for pre-existing, non-commercial, and/or geographical use) should apply in the domain name context—particularly at the second level and in both new and existing TLDs.” If this is ultimately our position as a Council, then I believe it is best to gently back away from the current PDP, at least with respect to the Red Cross designations and Olympic words, in favor of something much more expeditious and narrow.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; text-indent: -0.25in; "><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; "><span>o<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span>As you may recall, the original IPC position on this issue is that IOC/Red Cross protection should not be subject to a PDP. That position is not reflected in the letter, and it should be reflected, even if it is reflected as a minority view.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; text-indent: -0.25in; "><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; "><span>o<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span>The proposed definition of “policy” in the letter is overbroad, subjective and particularly inappropriate in light of the recent policy versus implementation discussion framework published by ICANN policy staff. I believe it is better to simply admit that there is no bright line test and recognize that this issue is ripe for further discussion within the ICANN community.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; text-indent: -0.25in; "><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; "><span>o<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span>To clarify, I do not believe that the GAC is asking for protection of the entire .INT list of names. Rather, it is my understanding that the list of IGOs that qualify under the GAC’s criteria (i.e. are treaty-based organizations) is a discrete list of around only 200 acronyms.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; text-indent: -0.25in; "><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; "><span>o<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span>Finally, the Council should not support anything, regardless of its substance, that may be interpreted as a legal opinion on intermediary liability, such as the statement that, “(To our knowledge, however, these laws would not create intermediary liability or impose affirmative obligations on ICANN, registries, and/or registrars with respect to third party registrations.)” Conclusions such as these should be fleshed out and substantiated with objective facts, research or citations.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">Please contact me if you would like to discuss any of these comments or proposed amendments further.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">Thank you,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">Brian<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 9pt; ">Brian J. 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If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message.</span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">-------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; "><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; ">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</span></a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>on behalf of Jonathan Robinson[<a href="SMTP:JONATHAN.ROBINSON@IPRACON.COM" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; "><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; ">SMTP:JONATHAN.ROBINSON@IPRACON.COM</span></a>]<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 1:32:24 AM<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">To: 'Thomas Rickert'; 'GNSO Council List'<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">Subject: RE: [council] potential annex to Jeff's draft letter Auto forwarded by a Rule<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">Many thanks Thomas,<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">I'll certainly plan to review today.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">Jeff (as lead) and others, please note that this is due for completion this week since I told Heather we'd reply to her in January.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">Jonathan<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; "><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; ">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</span></a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; "><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; ">mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org</span></a>] On Behalf Of Thomas Rickert<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">Sent: 27 January 2013 17:29<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">To: GNSO Council List<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">Subject: [council] potential annex to Jeff's draft letter<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">All,<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">as discussed, please find attached a text that could be used as an Annex to the draft letter prepared by Jeff in response to the GAC to illustrate the complexity of the matter. The intention was to keep it very brief (a bit over a page), but still show that there are some issues that need to be resolved.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">Thomas<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><span><Draft Council Response re IGO-INGO PDP.doc></span></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>