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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Jonathan,<br>
<br>
I would support option 1. and request a minority opinion from the
IPC to be attached to the letter.<br>
<br>
By doing so we could hit our deadline.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Volker<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
believe we are heading to one of two options:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Adopt
the substance of Jeff’s draft with agreed changes. I
believe that we will need to reflect Brian’s / the IPC input
on this and so it may need some changes in order to do so. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Write
to Heather / the GAC indicating that we are working on this
but need a little more time.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Consider
also that want to limit the extent to which we go into the
Policy vs Implementation issue here since this is the
subject of a broader and longer term initiative.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Jonathan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>David
Cake<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 30 January 2013 17:49<br>
<b>To:</b> Neuman, Jeff<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Winterfeldt, Brian; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [council] potential annex to Jeff's
draft letter<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I am supportive of Jeff's position - I'm in
favour of sending the letter as it was drafted (with the
suggested changes from Thomas in the appendix). I believe
Brian's suggestions would change the letter in such a way that
it would no longer represent the views of the majority of
council. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-tab-span">
</span>David<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 30/01/2013, at 6:54 AM,
"Neuman, Jeff" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Jeff.Neuman@neustar.us">Jeff.Neuman@neustar.us</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<o:p></o:p></p>
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lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US"> </span><span
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lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">Thank you for this Brian. I think
we face a dilemma here because your revisions
not only gut the letter that was written by us,
but also in many respects represents a complete
reversal of the positions taken by most of the
members of council on the previous council
calls. We can of course make some updates based
on the new paper ICANN staff just released, but
remember that that was not out when I initially
sent the letter.</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US"> </span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">So, we now have two versions of the
letter which I do not believe cannot be
reconciled. If it just the IPC that supports
this new version, then we should send the
original version and allow the IPC to include
comments as a minority report. If, however,
there is other support for this version, then we
have an issue to work through.</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US"><br>
With respect to the comments raised in the
e-mail below:</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US"> </span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:-18.0pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New","serif"" lang="EN-US">o</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt" lang="EN-US"> <span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">We disagree with the notion that
“the impact of the instant PDP is to challenge,
or at least question, not only the GAC’s
proposed criteria for protection,” or “the GAC’s
determination to advance protection for the
specific two organizations that meet that
criteria.” This was carefully considered by the
Council when it chose to implement the PDP and
rejected by those voting in favor of the PDP.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:-18.0pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New","serif"" lang="EN-US">o</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt" lang="EN-US"> <span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">I don’t believe we said that the
sole remit of the PDP was to look at exceptions,
but rather, that was listed as an example.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:-18.0pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New","serif"" lang="EN-US">o</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt" lang="EN-US"> <span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">I have no objection of including a
footnote that the IPC did not support the PDP,
but to change the entire letter simply because
one constituency didn’t agree to not seem to be
the right approach.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:-18.0pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New","serif"" lang="EN-US">o</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt" lang="EN-US"> <span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">The policy framework put out by
ICANN staff is still under discussion and should
not be used for any other purpose until that
document has been thoroughly vetted. We
appreciate the fact that the IPC believes that
the definition of policy is overbroad, but we
have taken this definition from what has been
used in the past by ICANN in actual situations
to look at actual issues to determine whether it
is in scope for the policy process. It is the
only community accepted definition that there
is.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:-18.0pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New","serif"" lang="EN-US">o</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt" lang="EN-US"> <span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">On the legal issue of intermediary
liability, I could cite a number of legal cases
in the US, including the Lockheed Martin case,
Brookfield, etc. but we wanted to keep the
letter short and to the point. I also have a
case we litigated in Belgium that states the
same thing that could be cited involving the
droit.biz domain name.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">In short, we as a council need to
decide what to do. The registries are in favor
of sending the letter as it was drafted (with
the tweaks from Thomas on the Appendix). The
IPC comments would drastically change the letter
in a way that defers to the GAC on everything
policy-related, which we believe represents a
contravention of the ICANN Bylaws (where the
GNSO is charged with policy making for gTLDs)
and a potential break down of the
multi-stakeholder process. Don’t get me wrong,
the governments are vital for the
multi-stakeholder process to work and we believe
their opinions/advice should be weighed heavily.
But they cannot be the “be-all-end-all” of
policy with respect to gTLDs. This is not only
an issue with respect to the IOC/RC and IGOs,
but also Whois, law enforcement activities, etc.</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US"> </span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">We need to find a way to all work
together.</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US"> </span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">Best regards,</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US"> </span><span
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lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:6.0pt"><b><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">Jeffrey J. Neuman</span></b><span
class="apple-converted-space"><b><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#3366FF"
lang="EN-US"> </span></b></span><b><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#3366FF"
lang="EN-US"><br>
</span></b><b><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#068658"
lang="EN-US">Neustar, Inc. / Vice President,
Business Affairs</span></b><span
style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7D7D7D"
lang="EN-US"><br>
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</span><span
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lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
class="apple-converted-space"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"> </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:owner">mailto:owner</a>-<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a>]<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On
Behalf Of</b>Winterfeldt, Brian<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday,
January 29, 2013 8:16 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>RE:
[council] potential annex to Jeff's draft
letter</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">Dear all:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">As you may already be aware, I have
a different point of view on the Council’s
response to the GAC with respect to the ongoing
IGO-INGO PDP. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">Having informally spoken to GAC
representatives about this issue, here are some
personal comments, that are shared by IPC
leadership, as well as a proposed redline that I
would like to have on record and I hope the
Council will take into consideration.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:-18.0pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New","serif"" lang="EN-US">o</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt" lang="EN-US"> <span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">The rather broad scope of the
current IGO INGO PDP, which considers “whether
there is a need for special protections at the
top and second level” of all gTLDs, has the
practical effect of second guessing GAC advice
with respect to international legal norms and
public policy. In other words, whether
intentional or unintentional, the impact of the
instant PDP is to challenge, or at least
question, not only the GAC’s proposed criteria
for protection, but also the GAC’s determination
to advance protection for the specific two
organizations that meet that criteria.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:-18.0pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New","serif"" lang="EN-US">o</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt" lang="EN-US"> <span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">Please bear in mind that the GAC
was careful to propose protections for Red Cross
designations, Olympic words and a finite list of
IGO acronyms<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b><i><u>for
new gTLDs only</u></i></b>. I cannot
recall anyone ever recommending or requesting
such protection in all existing gTLDs as well.
Thus, the Council’s response to the GAC needs to
fully explain any underlying rationale for the
unilateral decision to broaden the scope of the
instant PDP well beyond GAC advice to include
existing gTLDs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:-18.0pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New","serif"" lang="EN-US">o</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt" lang="EN-US"> <span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">The Council’s current draft
response to the GAC seems to suggest that the
GNSO’s primary remit of policy development
relating to the IOC/Red Cross is “to determine
what, if any, exceptions (i.e. for pre-existing,
non-commercial, and/or geographical use) should
apply in the domain name context—particularly at
the second level and in both new and existing
TLDs.” If this is ultimately our position as a
Council, then I believe it is best to gently
back away from the current PDP, at least with
respect to the Red Cross designations and
Olympic words, in favor of something much more
expeditious and narrow.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:-18.0pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New","serif"" lang="EN-US">o</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt" lang="EN-US"> <span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">As you may recall, the original IPC
position on this issue is that IOC/Red Cross
protection should not be subject to a PDP. That
position is not reflected in the letter, and it
should be reflected, even if it is reflected as
a minority view.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:-18.0pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New","serif"" lang="EN-US">o</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt" lang="EN-US"> <span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">The proposed definition of “policy”
in the letter is overbroad, subjective and
particularly inappropriate in light of the
recent policy versus implementation discussion
framework published by ICANN policy staff. I
believe it is better to simply admit that there
is no bright line test and recognize that this
issue is ripe for further discussion within the
ICANN community.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div style="margin-left:72.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:-18.0pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New","serif"" lang="EN-US">o</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt" lang="EN-US"> <span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">To clarify, I do not believe that
the GAC is asking for protection of the entire
.INT list of names. Rather, it is my
understanding that the list of IGOs that qualify
under the GAC’s criteria (i.e. are treaty-based
organizations) is a discrete list of around only
200 acronyms.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:-18.0pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New","serif"" lang="EN-US">o</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt" lang="EN-US"> <span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">Finally, the Council should not
support anything, regardless of its substance,
that may be interpreted as a legal opinion on
intermediary liability, such as the statement
that, “(To our knowledge, however, these laws
would not create intermediary liability or
impose affirmative obligations on ICANN,
registries, and/or registrars with respect to
third party registrations.)” Conclusions such
as these should be fleshed out and substantiated
with objective facts, research or citations.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">Please contact me if you would like
to discuss any of these comments or proposed
amendments further.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">From:<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a
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href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org"><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</span></a><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>on
behalf of Jonathan Robinson[<a
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href="SMTP:JONATHAN.ROBINSON@IPRACON.COM"><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">SMTP:JONATHAN.ROBINSON@IPRACON.COM</span></a>]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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lang="EN-US">Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013
1:32:24 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">To: 'Thomas Rickert'; 'GNSO Council
List'<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">Subject: RE: [council] potential
annex to Jeff's draft letter Auto forwarded by a
Rule<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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lang="EN-US">Many thanks Thomas,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">I'll certainly plan to review
today.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">Jeff (as lead) and others, please
note that this is due for completion this week
since I told Heather we'd reply to her in
January.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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lang="EN-US">-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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lang="EN-US">From:<span
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href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org"><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</span></a><span
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On Behalf Of Thomas Rickert<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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lang="EN-US">Sent: 27 January 2013 17:29<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">Subject: [council] potential annex
to Jeff's draft letter<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
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lang="EN-US">as discussed, please find attached
a text that could be used as an Annex to the
draft letter prepared by Jeff in response to the
GAC to illustrate the complexity of the matter.
The intention was to keep it very brief (a bit
over a page), but still show that there are some
issues that need to be resolved.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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