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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks. From my perspective, there are a couple of issues:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Adrian has gone quiet on me. I need to confirm he is still interested.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Our Wednesday meetings could probably do with something to make them / keep them interesting and with broad GNSO (and beyond) appeal.<br>This is useful from that perspective so it works for me.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jonathan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> WUKnoben [mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de] <br><b>Sent:</b> 26 June 2013 12:50<br><b>To:</b> Petter Rindforth; council@gnso.icann.org; john@crediblecontext.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [council] Presentation from the DNA<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Are there any concerns from council members re a DNA presentation at the council meeting on Wednesday?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><br>Best regards<br><br>Wolf-Ulrich<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> <a href="mailto:john@crediblecontext.com" title="john@crediblecontext.com">john@crediblecontext.com</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> Wednesday, June 26, 2013 12:38 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> <a href="mailto:petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu" title="petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu">Petter Rindforth</a> ; <a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" title="council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a> ; <a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de" title="wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de">WUKnoben</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> RE: Re: [council] Presentation from the DNA<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Petter,</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I am sure you meant </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>that "the Domain Name Association <em><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>offer to</span></b></em> make individual presentations to GNSO stakeholder groups..." I would not want to make their appearance before the Council contingent upon all the group accepting.</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Cheers,</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Berard</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #C2C2C2 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 2.0pt;margin-left:3.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>--------- Original Message --------- <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Subject: Re: [council] Presentation from the DNA<br>From: "Petter Rindforth" <<a href="mailto:petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu">petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu</a>><br>Date: 6/25/13 2:22 pm<br>To: <a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a>, "WUKnoben" <<a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Dear All,</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>The IPC agrees that the Domain Name Association, as well as all other groups, should be permitted to make a presentation to the GNSO Council in Durban, with the caveat that agendas and/or PowerPoint materials are provided to the Council well in advance addressing threshold questions about who the group is and what subjects they intend to discuss. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>In the alternative, as we are quickly approaching our time in Durban, South Africa, the IPC recommends that the Domain Name Association make individual presentations to GNSO stakeholder groups and constituencies in order to facilitate a more complete dialog regarding topics and questions germane to each stakeholder group and constituency.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Petter<o:p></o:p></span></p><pre><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Petter Rindforth, LL M<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Fenix Legal KB<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Stureplan 4c, 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Please delete it immediately and notify us by return e-mail.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Fenix Legal KB, Sweden, <a href="http://www.fenixlegal.eu">www.fenixlegal.eu</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Thank you<o:p></o:p></span></pre><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>On 21 jun 2013 18:10 "WUKnoben" <a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de">mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>So far I have seen support for a council discussion triggered by a DNA presentation – in case it’s more than just lobbying.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Since the weekend schedule in Durban at this stage doesn’t allow for an additional slot we should think about a feasible allocation on the Wednesday meeting.<br><br>Best regards<br><br>Wolf-Ulrich<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> <a href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info" title="jrobinson@afilias.info">Jonathan Robinson</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Sent:</span></strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> Monday, June 17, 2013 9:36 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>To:</span></strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> <a href="mailto:johnberard@aol.com" title="johnberard@aol.com">'John Berard'</a> ; <a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" title="council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Subject:</span></strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> RE: [council] Presentation from the DNA<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks John.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><strong><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></strong><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> John Berard [<a href="mailto:johnberard@aol.com">mailto:johnberard@aol.com</a>] <br><strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></strong> 17 June 2013 20:04<br><strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>To:</span></strong> <a href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info">jrobinson@afilias.info</a>; <a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></strong> Re: [council] Presentation from the DNA</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Jonathan,<br><br>I would be happy to have Adrian make his presentation as long as it is appreciably different than the deck we all saw in Beijing. I am sure it has evolved, but can you confirm?<br><br>In fact, the rise of these kinds of associations may be market evidence of the need for and, perhaps, how the organization of the GNSO might be changed in the course of the up coming review. It is clear that the prior segments are losing their stand-alone integrity as each constituency is in the process of taking on the characteristics of others.<br><br>We might find, in the discussion of the new association, a new nomenclature for the community that could lead to a more modern organization.<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>Berard</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Jonathan Robinson <<a href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info">jrobinson@afilias.info</a>><br>To: council <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br>Sent: Mon, Jun 17, 2013 9:38 am<br>Subject: [council] Presentation from the DNA</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div id="AOLMsgPart_1_21765ad0-873c-4d4e-9a71-9c96b3593be2"><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>All,</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I have had a request from Adrian Kinderis (who some of you may know from his time as a councillor) to present the DNA to the Council in a 15 minute session over the weekend in Durban.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>The Domain Name Association (DNA) is a new non-profit global business association that represents the interests of the domain name industry and it describes its mission as being to:</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>“Promote the interests of its members by advocating the use, adoption, and expansion of domain names as the primary tool for users to navigate the Internet.”</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Please indicate any interest, lack of interest or neutrality on this.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Thanks,</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Jonathan</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></body></html>