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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">John,<br>
<br>
I I wrote my comments in a way that they could be understood as to
be directed towards you personally, I must apologize, this was not
my intention. <br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Volker<br>
</div>
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<div>Volker,</div>
<div> </div>
<div>I am now starting to take this personally.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Please review my comments on this matter. I am not opposed
to publicly stating concerns, and your phrasing, "a large part
of the council holds" more than adequately addressed the concern
I did have. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>It was couching the view of the Council as the product of a
deliberative process that I did not like. I am not arguing the
board governance committee's decision, just its rationale.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>If I am too thin skinned on this matter or have misunderstood
the intent, I apologize for being wrong, but I do not want to be
said to be standing in he way of a request from the Council for
a review of the way the decision was made. It was, indeed, a
view of a large part of the Council.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Berard</div>
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Original Message ---------
<div>Subject: Re: [council] FYI: NCSG Letter to the Board re.
Reconsideration Request 13-3<br>
From: "Volker Greimann" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"><vgreimann@key-systems.net></a><br>
Date: 6/27/13 5:13 am<br>
To: "Maria Farrell" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:maria.farrell@gmail.com"><maria.farrell@gmail.com></a><br>
Cc: "John Berard" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:john@crediblecontext.com"><john@crediblecontext.com></a>, "Jonathan
Robinson" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jonathan.robinson@ipracon.com"><jonathan.robinson@ipracon.com></a>, "WUKnoben"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de"><wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de></a>,
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">"council@gnso.icann.org"</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org"><council@gnso.icann.org></a><br>
<br>
It is indeed frustrating that whenever the council fails to
take a vote positions are suddenly questioned when it comes to
publicly stating concerns a large part of the council holds.
The only solution seems to be that prior to ending a
discussion on any topic that calls for a letter to be sent or
statement to be made at least a measurement of the
"temperature of the room" be conducted to see if there is
substantial opposition during the meeting, instead of after
the letter is drafted.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Volker Greimann<br>
<br>
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<div>Thanks, John, for your comments. I'm not sure how
fruitful it is to continue pressing the point, but it
seems clear to me that a majority of the stakeholder
groups on the Council are very concerned with the
issues NCSG has raised in its request and that Jeff
has articulated in his letter. <br>
<br>
I have found it frustrating that efforts to secure
agreement on any core principles of concern appear to
have foundered, so I'm not sure how constructive it is
to keep saying that the Council as a whole doesn't
have a view.<br>
<br>
I haven't heard much in the way of substantive
disagreement, but perhaps my impression of our most
recent call where others expressed concern about
process or their ability to be heard is colouring my
memory.<br>
</div>
In any case, what is the status of a letter from the
Council to the Board, articulating concerns? Can a
formal decision taken to either send or not send Jeff's
letter?<br>
</div>
<div>I think it is time we rose above individual
stakeholder group concerns and considered the
implications for the Council as a whole. </div>
<div> </div>
All the best, Maria</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 26 June 2013 17:42, <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:john@crediblecontext.com"
target="_blank">john@crediblecontext.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>Jonathan,</div>
<div> </div>
<div>I will repeat what I said initially.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Jeff's proposed letter was accurate in exposing a
set of issues that was of intense interest to the
Council. It was incorrect is suggesting the view
was unanimous and that there was some decision taken
on the part of the Council about it.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Raise the matter -- I was the one who brought of
the notion of exectivication of decision making at
ICANN -- sure, but be clear it is our concern, not
our judgement.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Berard</div>
<div> </div>
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Original Message ---------
<div>
<div class="im">Subject: RE: [council] FYI: NCSG
Letter to the Board re. Reconsideration Request
13-3</div>
<div>
<div class="h5">From: "Jonathan Robinson" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jonathan.robinson@ipracon.com"
target="_blank">jonathan.robinson@ipracon.com</a>><br>
Date: 6/26/13 7:30 am<br>
To: "'WUKnoben'" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de"
target="_blank">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</a>>,
"'Maria Farrell'" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:maria.farrell@gmail.com"
target="_blank">maria.farrell@gmail.com</a>>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org"
target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:john@crediblecontext.com"
target="_blank">john@crediblecontext.com</a><br>
<br>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
11.0pt; font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">Personally,
I have no difficulty with the principle
of the point made by John and supported
by Wolf-Ulrich.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
11.0pt; font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
11.0pt; font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">That
said, I believe Jeff has articulated a
concern regarding this item which was
then discussed and there was clearly
some (un-quantified) support on the
Council for this position.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
11.0pt; font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
11.0pt; font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">Therefore,
what would be helpful to me, and likely
to the Council as a whole, is to hear
any arguments as to why the concerns
articulated are not necessarily
concerns.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
11.0pt; font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
11.0pt; font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">I
hope I am not doing anyone a disservice
here but I thought I heard questions
seeking clarification or detail and some
proposed variations to the wording of
our communication with BGC, but not
necessarily any substantive arguments as
to why the concerns raised (originally
by Jeff) should not be concerns.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
11.0pt; font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
11.0pt; font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">Thanks,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
11.0pt; font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
11.0pt; font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
11.0pt; font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">Jonathan</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
11.0pt; font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;"> </span></p>
<div>
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0cm 0cm;">
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span
style="font-size: 10.0pt;
font-family:
'Tahoma','sans-serif';"
lang="EN-US">From:</span></strong><span
style="font-size: 10.0pt;
font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';"
lang="EN-US"> WUKnoben [mailto:<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de"
target="_blank">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</a>]
<br>
<strong>Sent:</strong> 26 June 2013
12:58<br>
<strong>To:</strong> Maria Farrell;
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org"
target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a>;
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:john@crediblecontext.com"
target="_blank">john@crediblecontext.com</a><br>
<strong>Subject:</strong> Re:
[council] FYI: NCSG Letter to the
Board re. Reconsideration Request
13-3</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';">With
respect to the fairness to those
who did not raise similar concerns
or couldn’t support the concerns
raised at the last council meeting
I join John’s comment.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';"><br>
Best regards<br>
<br>
Wolf-Ulrich</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10.0pt;
font-family:
'Tahoma','sans-serif';"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:
whitesmoke;"><strong><span
style="font-size: 10.0pt;
font-family:
'Tahoma','sans-serif';">From:</span></strong><span
style="font-size: 10.0pt;
font-family:
'Tahoma','sans-serif';"> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
title="john@crediblecontext.com"
href="mailto:john@crediblecontext.com" target="_blank">john@crediblecontext.com</a>
</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:
whitesmoke;"><strong><span
style="font-size: 10.0pt;
font-family:
'Tahoma','sans-serif';">Sent:</span></strong><span
style="font-size: 10.0pt;
font-family:
'Tahoma','sans-serif';">
Wednesday, June 26, 2013
12:41 AM</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:
whitesmoke;"><strong><span
style="font-size: 10.0pt;
font-family:
'Tahoma','sans-serif';">To:</span></strong><span
style="font-size: 10.0pt;
font-family:
'Tahoma','sans-serif';"> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
title="maria.farrell@gmail.com"
href="mailto:maria.farrell@gmail.com" target="_blank">Maria Farrell</a>
; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
title="council@gnso.icann.org" href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org"
target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a>
</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:
whitesmoke;"><strong><span
style="font-size: 10.0pt;
font-family:
'Tahoma','sans-serif';">Subject:</span></strong><span
style="font-size: 10.0pt;
font-family:
'Tahoma','sans-serif';"> RE:
[council] FYI: NCSG Letter
to the Board re.
Reconsideration Request 13-3</span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';"> </span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';">Maria,</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';">I am a
fan of short-hand and jargon (it
make life quicker and excludes
the uninitiated) but your letter
should have more correctly said
"<em><strong><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';">Some
members of</span></strong></em>
the GNSO Council expressed
concern..." It is clear there
is no position taken and no
unanimity.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';">A fine
but important point.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';">Cheers,</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';">Berard</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';"> </span></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';">---------
Original Message --------- </span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';">Subject:
[council] FYI: NCSG Letter to
the Board re. Reconsideration
Request 13-3<br>
From: "Maria Farrell" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:maria.farrell@gmail.com"
target="_blank">maria.farrell@gmail.com</a>><br>
Date: 6/25/13 1:48 pm<br>
To: "<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a>"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a>></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:
12.0pt;"><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';">Dear
Council colleagues,</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';">Below
for your information is
a copy of a letter sent
on behalf of the NCSG to
the Board of Directors,
which was received by
the Board (via Bruce
Tonkin's kind
intercession) on 19
June. </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';">Bruce
says the Board would be
interested to meet and
discuss the broad
concerns about the
multistakeholder model
raised in the
reconsideration request,
and also confirms that
the request itself will
be discussed at the BGC
meeting of 25 June. </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';">If
and when we have any
scheduling information
about a meeting with the
Board, we will share it
so that others may be
aware. </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:
12.0pt;"><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';">All
the best,</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';">Maria</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';"><br>
Dear ICANN Board of
Directors:</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';">I
am writing to you on
behalf of the
Non-Commercial
Stakeholder Group (NCSG)
and other concerned
members of the ICANN
community regarding the
harmful implications to
the community-led
multi-stakeholder policy
development model if the
ICANN Board decides to
adopt the rationale
provided in the
recommendation of the
Board Governance
Committee (BGC) in
response to the NCSG's
Request for
Reconsideration (13-3).
The rationale provided
in the BGC's
recommendation, which
appears to be drafted by
over-reaching lawyers,
attempts to set a
precedent that ICANN
staff can over-rule the
GNSO Council on policy
decisions at its own
discretion. This
decision has alarmed
community members beyond
the NCSG and beyond
those who were
originally concerned
with the underlying
issue that NCSG was
initially probing of
staff's adoption of the
"TM+50" policy for the
Trademark
Clearinghouse. </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';">The
GNSO Council expressed
concern about the BGC
decision rationale at
length during council's
13 June meeting; and I
encourage all Board
Members to listen to <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://t.co/ss2MwpdWEa" target="_blank">audio recording</a> of the
GNSO Council discussion
or read the attached
transcript to get a
better understanding the
concerns of members of
several different GNSO
stakeholder groups. </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';">The
rationale provided in
the BGC decision, if
adopted by the entire
board, would cement the
change in ICANN's policy
development model away
from the bottom-up
community-led governance
model to a top-down
staff-driven model with
no checks on abuses or
poor staff decisions.
If the rationale
provided in this BGC
decision is adopted by
the Board, which goes
well beyond the narrow
issue presented to it,
ICANN threatens to
undermine its own
legitimacy as a global
governance institution,
and it loses the ability
to label itself as a
community-led bottom-up
model for Internet
governance.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';">We
understand the BGC's
recommendation is on the
agenda to be adopted on
25 June 2013 by the
Board's New gTLD Program
Committee (NGPC). Given
the Board's record of
adopting all 15 BGC
decisions that have come
before it in the last
ten years, there is
concern that this BGC
recommendation will be
similarly adopted by the
Board with little
understanding or
discussion of the harm
to ICANN's legitimacy
and the
multi-stakeholder model
that this precedent
threatens. The handling
of this reconsideration
request has also raised
concerns about ICANN's
"accountability"
mechanism, which appears
to allow the same legal
team that created and
adopted a policy to
later evaluate the
legitimacy of that
policy's adoption.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em><strong><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';">We therefore respectfully request that the
Board meet with
concerned members of
the community
including NCSG to
permit a more
complete discussion
and understanding of
the concerns raised
by the rationale
provided in the BGC
decision and to
allow for
appropriate
adjustments to the
decision before it
is adopted by the
Board.</span></strong></em><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';">
We would gladly meet
with the Members of the
ICANN Board during the
Durban Meeting or
before, at the Board's
convenience, to discuss
this decision and
welcome all members of
the community to join in
the discussion. Please
let us know if the Board
is available to meet
with NCSG and others in
the community on this
crucial issue at your
earliest convenience.
Thank you for your
consideration. We look
forward to fruitful
discussions going into
Durban and stand ready
to provide whatever
assistance is needed.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';">Truly,</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';">Robin
Gross</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif';">NCSG
Chair</span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
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Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
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Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder werden Sie unser Fan bei Facebook:
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Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin
Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534
Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
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Best regards,
Volker A. Greimann
- legal department -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
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CEO: Alexander Siffrin
Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
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Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Volker A. Greimann
- Rechtsabteilung -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
Web: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.key-systems.net">www.key-systems.net</a> / <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.RRPproxy.net">www.RRPproxy.net</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.domaindiscount24.com">www.domaindiscount24.com</a> / <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.BrandShelter.com">www.BrandShelter.com</a>
Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder werden Sie unser Fan bei Facebook:
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.facebook.com/KeySystems">www.facebook.com/KeySystems</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.twitter.com/key_systems">www.twitter.com/key_systems</a>
Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin
Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534
Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.keydrive.lu">www.keydrive.lu</a>
Der Inhalt dieser Nachricht ist vertraulich und nur für den angegebenen Empfänger bestimmt. Jede Form der Kenntnisgabe, Veröffentlichung oder Weitergabe an Dritte durch den Empfänger ist unzulässig. Sollte diese Nachricht nicht für Sie bestimmt sein, so bitten wir Sie, sich mit uns per E-Mail oder telefonisch in Verbindung zu setzen.
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Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Best regards,
Volker A. Greimann
- legal department -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
Web: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.key-systems.net">www.key-systems.net</a> / <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.RRPproxy.net">www.RRPproxy.net</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.domaindiscount24.com">www.domaindiscount24.com</a> / <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.BrandShelter.com">www.BrandShelter.com</a>
Follow us on Twitter or join our fan community on Facebook and stay updated:
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.facebook.com/KeySystems">www.facebook.com/KeySystems</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.twitter.com/key_systems">www.twitter.com/key_systems</a>
CEO: Alexander Siffrin
Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534
Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.keydrive.lu">www.keydrive.lu</a>
This e-mail and its attachments is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. Furthermore it is not permitted to publish any content of this email. You must not use, disclose, copy, print or rely on this e-mail. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, kindly notify the author by replying to this e-mail or contacting us by telephone.
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