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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">I think we would need a draft in the next couple days to give us time to check with our respective groups.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Chuck<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jonathan Robinson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 04, 2013 9:27 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> council@gnso.icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [council] ATRT2 summary<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Thanks Avri & John,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Maria, are you in a position to lead a draft of this asap?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">If not, or in any event, are there any other volunteers?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><br>
Maria’s preparation work and the recordings / transcripts from our meetings in BA will provide the material.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">But … it needs to be synthesised into a concise and effective input (or short & sweet as John put it) with council support.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Any takers? One week is a tight deadline!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Jonathan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Avri Doria
<a href="mailto:[mailto:avri@acm.org]">[mailto:avri@acm.org]</a> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> 02 December 2013 23:33<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [council] ATRT2 summary<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Hi,<br>
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Speaking as a member of the ATRT from the GNSO, it would be good to have a response from the GNSO's council letting us know what the council agrees with and what you don't. And any uncovered concerns the council may have.<br>
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I encourage us to submit.<br>
Avri Doria<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Jonathan Robinson <<a href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info">jrobinson@afilias.info</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Apologies,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">The input we had was from Maria (not Marika as below) but the question remains:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Do we provide written input to the ATRT2?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">If so; (a) it needs to be done by 13 Dec and (b) is Maria in a position to hold the pen?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Jonathan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Jonathan Robinson [<a href="mailto:jonathan.robinson@ipracon.com">mailto:jonathan.robinson@ipracon.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> 02 December 2013 17:47<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [council] ATRT2 summary<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">We used this useful input from Marika to provide input to the ATRT2 in Buenos Aires.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">I recall that we provided some well thought out and apparently helpful input in relation to the PDP and our role in managing policy development within the GNSO.<br>
<br>
In addition we touched on it during the wrap-up session on Thursday.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">We have to decide and act quickly on whether or not to provide written input by close of the reply period on 13 December 2013.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Thereafter they aim to produce the final report by 31 December 2013.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Any comments or input on this welcome.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Jonathan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Jonathan Robinson [<a href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info">mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> 20 November 2013 12:21<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Maria Farrell'; <a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [council] ATRT2 summary<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Many thanks Maria,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">All, please note that we are meeting with the ATRT2 in our second meeting GNSO Council meeting today.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">First we seat the new council, second we elect the chair.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Then we meet with the ATRT. Exiting councillors WELCOME to participate. It’s an open / public meeting.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Jonathan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Maria Farrell [<a href="mailto:maria.farrell@gmail.com">mailto:maria.farrell@gmail.com</a>] !
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<b>Sent:</b> 20 November 2013 09:09<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [council] ATRT2 summary<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB">Dear fellow councilors,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB">With apologies for the time it's taken me to send this last part, here is a summary of the ATRT2 report on the GNSO PDP. (I'm afraid I ran out of time to summarise the rest of the report.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB">I hope this is useful.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Full text of the report is here: <a href="http://www.icann.org/en/about/aoc-review/atrt/draft-recommendations-15oct13-en.pdf">
http://www.icann.org/en/about/aoc-review/atrt/draft-recommendations-15oct13-en.pdf</a><br>
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And the GNSO PDP part starts on page 59 of the report.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB">All the best, Maria<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-GB">ATRT2 Report – section on GNSO PDP</span></b><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-GB">The problem:</span></b><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">GNSO PDP is weak when it comes to resolving strong views and financial interests.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-GB">Background research</span></b><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Staff paper on improving the PDP is in the works<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-GB">Community input</span></b><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Chairs and WG veterans stress need for F2F meetings, professional facilitators, Board involvement and for people were both for and against the Board issuing threats and deadlines.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-GB">Interconnect Report Findings</span></b><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">PDPs mostly done by North Americans and Europeans<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Most active participants are paid to be there<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Many participants dissatisfied with process, time it takes and feel it’s not worth while – one time only WG participation is typical<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Culturally, PDP and WG process very Western culturally and English language based<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-GB">ATRT2 Findings</span></b><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Growing sense that professional facilitators are needed to help resolve difficult issues, although it may not suffice<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Current model is based on email and conference calls, but F2F is more effective<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">! Board deadlines sometimes used to overcome intractable differences, but it’s not clear how to ensure people negotiate within PDP in good faith. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Board is part of the problem: Board deadlined PDPs don’t always create good policy. Or Board says it wants a policy and decides its own response in the meantime, or Board nullifies outcomes of a PDP. This creates distrust
that some in the PDP are not committed to it and will undermine outcome by lobbying Board or GAC.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-GB">ATRT2 Draft New Recommendations</span></b><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">ICANN should:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Fund facilitators and draft guidelines for when they can be used<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Provide funding for more F2F meetings<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Work with community to make PDP faster, to attract more people<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">The GAC should:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">With the GNSO, find ways to input to WGs and to GNSO Council on draft PDP reports
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">The Board and GNSO should:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Start an initiative to increase participation from outside NA/Europe, non-English speaking, other cultures, people not funded by industry. Players<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Also:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">The Board should set procedures for what to do when the GNSO cannot come to a decision within the time, and state “under what conditions the Board believes it may alter PDP recommendations after formal Board acceptance”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">A step should be added to the PDP process where those unhappy with staff comment summary can respond. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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