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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Chuck<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> John Berard [mailto:john@crediblecontext.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 11, 2013 2:43 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Berry Cobb<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Gomes, Chuck; James M. Bladel; Maria Farrell; Alan Greenberg; David Cake; Mike O'Connor; <council@gnso.icann.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [council] Draft ATRT2 Comments<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Who is this and what have you done with Berry?<br>
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Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Dec 11, 2013, at 11:36 AM, "Berry Cobb" <<a href="mailto:mail@berrycobb.com">mail@berrycobb.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I’m probably a bit tardy in offering this to the discussion, but it might at least help inform future deliberations on the topic of time duration on a PDP. 
 I started drafting a simple formula a while ago and I suspect a few more variables could be added.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Duration of a PDP is a function of participation X frequency X complexity X knowledge</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">D=PxFxCxK</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Food for thought…….</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Berry Cobb</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">720.839.5735</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a href="mailto:mail@berrycobb.com">mail@berrycobb.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Gomes, Chuck<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 11, 2013 12:00<br>
<b>To:</b> Gomes, Chuck; James M. Bladel; Maria Farrell<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Alan Greenberg; David Cake; Mike O'Connor; <a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">
council@gnso.icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [council] Draft ATRT2 Comments</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">One more thing on this.  I was comfortable with the changes in wording that James & I agreed to previously. What happened to that?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Chuck</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Gomes, Chuck<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 11, 2013 1:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> James M. Bladel; Maria Farrell<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Alan Greenberg; David Cake; Mike O'Connor; <a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">
council@gnso.icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [council] Draft ATRT2 Comments</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I don’t think that time-effectiveness can be dealt with in isolation of the other criteria.  In fact, time-effectiveness itself is not the root problem, it
 is the symptom.  We could easily make PDPs shorter; would that solve the problem?  We could reduce the time it takes to do a PDP?  Would that be a measure of success?  The original DNSO did that in policy work by having the GNSO Council act as a legislative
 body.  It’s easy to do things faster in a top-down management model.  I am willing to consider other wording but I have a serious problem with  the wording that is in the latest version Maria distributed.  I think it undermines the other points we make.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> James M. Bladel
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 11, 2013 1:12 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gomes, Chuck; Maria Farrell<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Alan Greenberg; David Cake; Mike O'Connor; <a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">
council@gnso.icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [council] Draft ATRT2 Comments</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">I’m not entirely on board with some of the sentiments expressed in your edits.  Opponents of the PDP will often (and firstly) cite the -lack– of time efficiency
 as the primary flaw in the process.  If we are to address those internal and external critics, it seems that this should be highlighted above the other concerns…</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Thanks—</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><Gomes>, Chuck <<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com">cgomes@verisign.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, December 11, 2013 at 12:02 <br>
<b>To: </b>Maria Farrell <<a href="mailto:maria.farrell@gmail.com">maria.farrell@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Alan Greenberg <<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>>, David Cake <<a href="mailto:dave@difference.com.au">dave@difference.com.au</a>>, Mike O'Connor <<a href="mailto:mike@haven2.com">mike@haven2.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a>"
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks Maria. 
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regarding ‘</span><b><span style="font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Times","serif";color:black">13.1 on GNSO and the wider ICANN community developing ways to make
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